All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

[Quantu]

That’s called the Charisma Mission it’s like a higher world of author avatars for characters in the actual Real World in SDBH. (Not Beats World) There’s no point in worrying about them because there isn’t enough scans, and really no context to most things. If we were to make one it would literally be ki manipulation, transformation, plot manipulation, and no other hax. It’d be the most dead page on the wiki lol. It’s not even worth worrying about them tbh or doing anything with them.

I'm replying to a conversation talking about Tori-Bot and where he would scale so realms like this would be important for a general scale since he scales above these realms, I'm not talking about the individual Charismas themselves or any of that

 

[NishizumiShiho]

There is like one photo of Toriyama that exists lmfao

There's plenty photo of him, but i get what you mean

 

[NishizumiShiho]

That's Beats world. There is a actual real world in Heros but no one scales to it iirc

I thought Tori-Bot and Toriyama scale to it?

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

I'm replying to a conversation talking about Tori-Bot and where he would scale so realms like this would be important for a general scale since he scales above these realms, I'm not talking about the individual Charismas themselves or any of that

I see. I still don’t know if there’s enough stuff for Game Toriyama to differentiate from Canon Toriyama, but I see the vision.

I thought Tori-Bot and Toriyama scale to it?

Toriyama, yes. He meant like relevant SDBH characters, for example CC Goku, Xeno Goku, etc. None of them scale to the Charismas or beyond.

 

[AguilaR202]

What do y'all think of the idea that post-ToP Base Goku > Early ToP SSB Goku?

Early ToP SSB Goku is portrayed to be relative to Android 17. Android 17 has infinite stamina and therefore his power remains the same throughout the tournament. Tired out drained Base Goku and Base Frieza at the end of the tournament are portrayed as relative to that Android 17.

Plot convenience, Freeza is not noted to get any stronger and 17 having unlimited stamina doesn’t really mean he isnt going to have a worse performance due to him sustaining injury aka blowing himself up so that’s not the avenue I’d use for scaling Goku.

Afaik

End of black arc SSB = early ToP SSG based on his comparative performance during his tag team with hit vs Dyspo.

UI1 > SSB Vegito -> Base Vegito -> Early ToP SSG = Black arc SSB Goku ( based on Gogetas base surpassing 2 SSB vs Broly )

Post UI2 SSB > UI1 > SSB Vegito > Base Vegito > Early ToP SSG

Now assume Goku stops using SSB and he’d be superior to base Vegito who may or may not surpass his Early ToP SSB.

Obviously this scaling is screwed the instant you try to slip in more power ups between the time he fused into Vegito and the start of the ToP besides his showings against Dyspo as a SSG.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I thought Tori-Bot and Toriyama scale to it?

Tori-Bot even scales with GT, since he literally appears there too, it doesn't make sense what he said lol

 

[Ss3micah]

Do any of you have discord
At this point I’m tempted to just spoil everything since it’s clear asking you all to leave the matter of Toriyama to me to handle is not gonna work as y’all seem to be cooking half baked ideas.

And after I worked so hard to get so many approvals for me secret project too

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Do any of you have discord
At this point I’m tempted to just spoil everything since it’s clear asking you all to leave the matter of Toriyama to me to handle is not gonna work as y’all seem to be cooking half baked ideas.

And after I worked so hard to get so many approvals for me secret project too

We have, give me your Discord so I can add you to one of our Dragon Ball groups

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Do any of you have discord

yes

At this point I’m tempted to just spoil everything since it’s clear asking you all to leave the matter of Toriyama to me to handle is not gonna work as y’all seem to be cooking half baked ideas.

Well, I think that's obvious. They are excited to cook Toriyama and don't seem to get updates from anyone who claims to be cooking, so they try to do their own thing out of excitement.

Like, DB supporters. I always see them trying to raise the level of the verse all the time with a lot of excitement (it's not an insult), just keep looking at the general discussion.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

yes


Well, I think that's obvious. They are excited to cook Toriyama and don't seem to get updates from anyone who claims to be cooking, so they try to do their own thing out of excitement.

Like, DB supporters. I always see them trying to raise the level of the verse all the time with a lot of excitement (it's not an insult), just keep looking at the general discussion.

Besides, asking for something won't work. Just see how vs thread were created after 5D despite at least 5 people asking not to do it every day.

 

[RedReaper616]

Do any of you have discord
At this point I’m tempted to just spoil everything since it’s clear asking you all to leave the matter of Toriyama to me to handle is not gonna work as y’all seem to be cooking half baked ideas.

And after I worked so hard to get so many approvals for me secret project too

Yes.

 

[Quantu]

Do any of you have discord
At this point I’m tempted to just spoil everything since it’s clear asking you all to leave the matter of Toriyama to me to handle is not gonna work as y’all seem to be cooking half baked ideas.

And after I worked so hard to get so many approvals for me secret project too

Would love to know what's being cooked

 

[Mearex]

we cookin' upgrades again?

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Do any of you have discord
At this point I’m tempted to just spoil everything since it’s clear asking you all to leave the matter of Toriyama to me to handle is not gonna work as y’all seem to be cooking half baked ideas.

And after I worked so hard to get so many approvals for me secret project too

booze_cruizer#1582

I want the story on my desk by the end of the night.

 

[StekFence]

Do any of you have discord
At this point I’m tempted to just spoil everything since it’s clear asking you all to leave the matter of Toriyama to me to handle is not gonna work as y’all seem to be cooking half baked ideas.

And after I worked so hard to get so many approvals for me secret project too

Make a server for db scaling

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Ice just came onto me in discord DMs

 

[Ss3micah]

Yeah so umm…
I’m very cautious and discrete so I’m not gonna be saying in any public open VBW or Discord spaces where the world can see what I’m talking about

If y’all want to be spoiled you can either reach out to me on discord or simply create a 10 person mini discord group among yourselves with me included and we can discuss there

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Yeah so umm…
I’m very cautious and discrete so I’m not gonna be saying in any public open VBW or Discord spaces where the world can see what I’m talking about

If y’all want to be spoiled you can either reach out to me on discord or simply create a 10 person mini discord group among yourselves with me included and we can discuss there

I gave u my discord dms. You know where to find me

 

[BlackeJan]

I would honestly place current Final Form Frieza (manga) around a current SSG Goku/Vegeta (manga)

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Do you think Janemba could receive large size type 8? Janemba in a certain guide it is said that he became the afterlife himself and in the film we are shown him being affected by swearing in your barriers placed throughout the afterlife.

 

[Tipper17]

Heroes has Namek Saga frieza Nuking the sun

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Heroes has Namek Saga frieza Nuking the sun

Sun made of styrofoam

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

I mean Frieza could nuke the sun so yeah

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Also SSG multiplier is accepted, but does it apply to speed or do we have a VSBW moment on our hands

 

[Padaruyos]

Looking at the current speed blog it seems SSG's speed multiplier is still >>>>>>50x

Also SSG multiplier is accepted, but does it apply to speed or do we have a VSBW moment on our hands

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Looking at the current speed blog it seems SSG's speed multiplier is still >>>>>>50x

vsbw moment

 

[NishizumiShiho]

I DO

Do any of you have discord
At this point I’m tempted to just spoil everything since it’s clear asking you all to leave the matter of Toriyama to me to handle is not gonna work as y’all seem to be cooking half baked ideas.

And after I worked so hard to get so many approvals for me secret project too

 

[AguilaR202]

Also SSG multiplier is accepted, but does it apply to speed or do we have a VSBW moment on our hands

It doesn’t even have a canon multiplier, all it is is > SS3.

 

[Vietthai96]

Heroes has Namek Saga frieza Nuking the sun

Heroes has Kid Chichi throw a person so hard that broke multiple planets so............................................

 

[Huesito88]

Heroes has Kid Chichi throw a person so hard that broke multiple planets so............................................

Kid Beast Chichi =P

 

[ChoursDropoff]

Do any of you have discord
At this point I’m tempted to just spoil everything since it’s clear asking you all to leave the matter of Toriyama to me to handle is not gonna work as y’all seem to be cooking half baked ideas.

And after I worked so hard to get so many approvals for me secret project too

I do can I just DM it to you or something?

 

[Fezzih_007]

Heroes has Kid Chichi throw a person so hard that broke multiple planets so............................................

This is so goofy lmao.

 

[Killerdrone123]

This is so goofy lmao.

This is so funny I am posting this on reddit kid chi chi solos mha

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

This is so goofy lmao.

Lol

 

[StekFence]

This is so goofy lmao.

It’s more amazing she can fly

 

[Phsccarvalho]

This is so funny I am posting this on reddit kid chi chi solos mha

 

[Spinoirr]

For the fusion dance, isn't it strongest x strongest = Base fusion?

or strongest + strongest = Base fusion?

 

[TimmyTurnero]

For the fusion dance, isn't it strongest x strongest = Base fusion?

or strongest + strongest = Base fusion?

its base x base then multiplied by some margin

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

Hey guys, here's what I plan to do.

• Fix DBS' dogshit scaling
• Fix SSB's dogshit multiplier
• Bring 22nd Budokai Tien and Goku back to moon level. (And trust me, it will be easy)

In that order. I'm currently dealing with SSB's dogshit multiplier so let's hope that gets solved soon

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

We also need to get more guidebooks, or at least the Chouzenshuu raws. All the english stores that have the Chouzenshuu basically sell a single book for 200 bucks. From a glance though, the guidebooks look far more accessible through Japanese stores. It's been a noticable problem how inaccessible the Chouzenshuu raws have been among the DB power scaling community, so I really wanna secure them eventually and resolve that issue.

I've more or less finished going through all the Dragon Ball online guides and content I could find, but there were no good cosmology stuff (how was Zenkai so good at getting guidebook shit, wtf?). My primary goal is obviously to find stuff to upgrade the cosmology, especially the Crack of Time for DBH since it's so damn close to having the right statements for Low 1-C. By now though, Beat's world is an irredeemable lost cause since it violates so many of Ultima's new R>F guidelines, so I think we should give up on it forever (Low 1-C Beat's world has become a literal meme on this site).