BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Deceived3596]

Edit: people come here with the Schrift the Y

 

[Adam1396]

Have fun!

Yeah, this can be used IG. Since even gotei captains are superior than that, that would be extreme lowball. What's the value for lightning surpassing speed?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

There’s no way Adam isn’t trolling

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

What's the value for lightning surpassing speed?

Speed of lightning+1m/s

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

 

[Arcker123]

He's never beaten me in his life and if you mean discord shmooply jumped in, called mods, and wiggly gave an impression he would kick me which made me just block Arcker and leave

I didn't call any mods lmao.

I just made you rage quit from a server twice.

 

[Robo432343]

yeah..i was the judge in that debate

 

[Robo432343]

also yhwach should have summoning

 

[Saibotsan]

About Ichibei slapping black ant 1000ri away and travelling there in a few seconds, or black ant travelling back after being sent a "few thousand ri" away, can any of these be calced?

Traveling a distance nearly equal to Australia distance East to West should yield some good numbers

 

[Arcker123]

2000 ri in meters/how long Ichibei takes to return to his initial position = Ichibe's speed in M/s.

Edit: It's sub relativistic movement speed. Its ~11000 mach

 

[DaMonkeMan]

He's never beaten me in his life and if you mean discord shmooply jumped in, called mods, and wiggly gave an impression he would kick me which made me just block Arcker and leave

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[Twisted_Little_Raven]

I didn't call any mods lmao.

I just made you rage quit from a server twice.

Shmooply did. Go read. Then Wiggly gave me a hint he would ban me. So i said **** it and i left. Had nothing to do with you little boy

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Shmooply did. Go read. Then Wiggly gave me a hint he would ban me. So i said **** it and i left. Had nothing to do with you little boy

Note: None of this ever happened. I read the entire argument, Wiggly simply appeared in chat and gave two unrelated comments then vanished.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

Note: None of this ever happened. I read the entire argument, Wiggly simply appeared in chat and gave two unrelated comments then vanished.

Literally all that happened. Wiggly also says bans in funny ways which he has done before

 

[Crobatman44]

“it’s barely interplanetary [wah it should be larger]” each day i get closer and closer to becoming an opponent of the Bleach verse

I'll join you.

 

[Arcker123]

Shmooply did. Go read. Then Wiggly gave me a hint he would ban me. So i said **** it and i left. Had nothing to do with you little boy

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

Tier 2 Bleach is pretty much a given at this point lmao

That is most certainly the bare minimum we are getting

If we don't, the only reason would be that you jinxed it

 

[TheLav69]

It might be worth calcing Ichigo and the gang running across the Dangai since we have a calc for its size and we get a set timeframe from Urahara for how long he can hold it open, and they make it through. The main problem is you’d have to go through the fact that the manga’s visuals don’t make it look nearly as far across as the Memories of Nobody visuals.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

Honestly I think reio palace - sereiti distance should be recalced with speed revise. Current distance is barely interplanetary and them using same sun is kinda meh. Why can't we use 1 week statement. Those are way more reliable methods than pixel scaling.

dude, if you tried changing something, it wouldn't nearly have the same rigor as the current scaling. I can dare to say the distance likely shouldn't be any bigger than what it is currently.

Can ya'll just stop asking "Why don't we accept {insert X very highballed take that would never get accepted on-site based on the type and quality of said evidence}? We currently have {X piece of scaling that is a reasonable lowball, valid, and well supported}, why don't we get low 1-C Bleach and lightspeed ceros?????" Like, actually take a moment to understand how things work in here, what the process is to get something accepted, and then comment.

low 1C. Garganta has it's own time dimension

it's kinda straight forward. Similar to why rimuru is 2A here for imaginary space. Garganta is 5D instead of 2A because of time dimension. With new standard it can be argued baseline 6D. Infinite 5D space + time , considering garganta works as separator between universe.

please just refer to the information above

 

[Crobatman44]

dude, if you tried changing something, it wouldn't nearly have the same rigor as the current scaling. I can dare to say the distance likely shouldn't be any bigger than what it is currently.

Can ya'll just stop asking "Why don't we accept {insert X very highballed take that would never get accepted on-site based on the type and quality of said evidence}? We currently have {X piece of scaling that is a reasonable lowball, valid, and well supported}, why don't we get low 1-C Bleach and lightspeed ceros?????" Like, actually take a moment to understand how things work in here, what the process is to get something accepted, and then comment.

Adam is clearly Shining_cross's reincarnation but instead of a Naruto goon it's a Bleach goon now,next one will be One Piece.

 

[Arcker123]

Why isn't Bleach 6D????????

Is VSBW stupid???????

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

We can't assume both are same sun when they are physically separated dimension.

This is blatantly just not what the lore is.

Well kubo is involved in anime too.

Not even gonna comment

Yeah, this can be used IG. Since even gotei captains are superior than that, that would be extreme lowball. What's the value for lightning surpassing speed?

Bro doesn't realize how circular using the fastest captain's speed to calcstack this is

 

[Valeska24]

I think Adam is making some jokes to cheer us all up in these stressful days

 

[Bastolan27]

While there are valid ways to wank Bleach to 5-6D, the only "highball" I support is 2-C, and that's only for the top god tiers. 2-C is the most reasonable, backed by the most evidence. Any higher meta seems flimsy and challenging to support. However, with the 100% true, no cap, for real, for real, R>F statement we are getting for the Almighty in cour 3, we might have 1-A Bleach. Source: Kubo told me.
Don't flame me; I'm still waiting until Cour 3-4 for 2-C Bleach, if we even get it. Kubo's finna say that the realms are planetary, and the stars are visual effects made by the lizard people

 

[Arcker123]

Momo (Noons argument: The Gotei trained to combat Aizen level threats so that neccesarily means he scales above an Aizen he couldn't even sense and didn't see, much less truly guage his full ability) > Final Fusion Aizen = 5-D

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

Noons argument: Mugetsu < Fullbring Ichigo < Fullbring Shikai Ichigo < Fullbring Bankai Ichigo < Jugram < Shikai Yamamoto (he trained and got stronger) < Bankai Yamamoto (he trained and got stronger) < Soul King (he got stronger) > Prime Reio (everyone in the series gets stronger, so why not the Reio???)

This is a very common goon scale from illiterate people

 

[Bastolan27]

each day i get closer and closer to becoming an opponent of the Bleach verse

I'll follow you to Naruto and Toriko and propose a Boundless scale every day, just to annoy you. Temari is universal, Itachi can see everything in the universe, Kurama is universal, and the 10 tails is Outer-boundless. Then, I'll go to the gym you go to and take all the leg equipment so you'll have stick legs and Superman's body. After that, I'll open 10 McDonald's near you, so you can only eat chicken nuggets and get fat.

 

[Arcker123]

Yamamoto is stated to not get stronger several times...

 

[Arcker123]

“it’s barely interplanetary [wah it should be larger]” each day i get closer and closer to becoming an opponent of the Bleach verse

They don't realize interplanetary on this wiki is the distance between stars lmao. "Interplanetary" is a misnomer...

 

[TheLav69]

I'm on the fence when it comes to 5D Bleach personally, the problem is that there's only like two valid (imo) ways to do it even off site, that being the Soul King's statement of transcending everything in CFYOW and using hyperspace Dangai arguments, and neither of them are watertight, far from it. There's a lot more consistency in tier 2 stuff.

 

[TheLav69]

It might be worth calcing Ichigo and the gang running across the Dangai since we have a calc for its size and we get a set timeframe from Urahara for how long he can hold it open, and they make it through. The main problem is you’d have to go through the fact that the manga’s visuals don’t make it look nearly as far across as the Memories of Nobody visuals.

What are people's thoughts on this, btw? Is there any point in attempting to bypass the manga's depiction of how far across it is using Kubo's statement of not caring much about backgrounds? It'd be a pretty tall order considering how close they appear to the exit. Might be hopeless.

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[Guacamolefletcher]

What are people's thoughts on this, btw? Is there any point in attempting to bypass the manga's depiction of how far across it is using Kubo's statement of not caring much about backgrounds? It'd be a pretty tall order considering how close they appear to the exit. Might be hopeless.

They literally run towards it for a week straight

 

[TheLav69]

They literally run towards it for a week straight

I get what you’re saying with the time dilation thing, but Urahara doesn’t tell any of them about this property of the Dangai. To me it’d seem silly for Urahara to tell them that they have 4 minutes to cross if they’d actually have nearly a week inside. It also doesn’t seem like they ran for nearly that long, given how it’s depicted constituently over the course of a few pages in the manga, with no cuts or anything to suggest such a vastly different time frame.

 

[TheLav69]

I also get that it’s a bit iffy though since the phrasing of the statement could easily refer to the passage of time outside the dangai, so there’s definitely room for interpretation.

 

[Saibotsan]

Personally want more hax over tier 1, dunno why y'all want the boring tier

 

[Bastolan27]

Personally want more hax over tier 1, dunno why y'all want the boring tier

I want layered tier 1 hax, so we can beat Kratos

 

[AnimesFreak2]

If we don't, the only reason would be that you jinxed it

 

[Arceus0x]

Literally all that happened. Wiggly also says bans in funny ways which he has done before

 

[AppleLord]

Tite Kubo is definetly going to extend the battle between Yhwach and Ichibei in Cour 3... episode 1. I wonder if Kubo will have Shutara take her own life to awaken some sort of Blood Oath Sealed for Ichibei to unleash his 100% and be able to have a decent fight with Almighty Yhwach instead of getting one shotted.

 

[Arcker123]

Yama > Ichibe is so joever rn