Condensing Natural Phenomena into one page

[Jasonsith]

@Antvasima @IdiosyncraticLawyer
Sorry for the late update


The next step is
Once you see my regrouping is appropriate, I shall make a sandbox on the draft pages of those pages and - once approved - proceed to make pages on the new natural phenomena pages.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

Sorry for the

?

 

[Jasonsith]

?

Just noted you on my status half a day ago.
(Hate working on a mobile device as always - cannot even correctly time when to send the drafts)

 

[Antvasima]

First
Glitch Event, Comet Telos Impact Event, Meteor (One Punch Man) and The Cosmic (CAOS) are irrelevant to our discussion, but are in the "events" category somehow.
Ask relevant verse knowledgeable members on how to reallocate such events.

Second, most pages in "real world" refer to real world animals, plants, weapons and vehicles so I will not touch most of them.

---

Now, the current classification:

Group into "Earthquake"
1960 Valdivia Earthquake
1964 Alaska Earthquake

Group into "Explosion incidents"
Halifax Explosion
Chernobyl Incident

Group into "Volcano eruption"
[/vs]Island Park Caldera super-eruption[/vs]
Krakatoa Eruption
La Garita Caldera super-eruption
Mount St Helens eruption
Mount Tambora Eruption
Mount Vesuvius eruption

(just keep as is)
Black Hole Collision Event
Hurricane (Real World)
Meteor Crater (should we rename that as Meteor Impact?)
Supernova
Theia Impact
Tornado

(up to discussion of whether to keep or set a new profile)

Chicxulub Impact Event (it is the biggest meteor collision / impoact event that caused the ultimate extinction of dinosaurs)
GRB 080916C
Ophiuchus Supercluster Eruption
SGR 1806-20 Starquake (should we group it under "Starquake"?)
Toba Mega Eruption
Tunguska Event

This seems good to me. Thank you for helping out.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

First
Glitch Event, Comet Telos Impact Event, Meteor (One Punch Man) and The Cosmic (CAOS) are irrelevant to our discussion, but are in the "events" category somehow.
Ask relevant verse knowledgeable members on how to reallocate such events.

I did this. Progress on the rest?

 

[Antvasima]

I did this. Progress on the rest?

Thank you very much for helping out.

@Jasonsith

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

I did this. Progress on the rest?

@Jasonsith

 

[Jasonsith]

Likely I will get more idle next week and actually try to keep up.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

Likely I will get more idle next week and actually try to keep up.

@Jasonsith Progress?

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

Likely I will get more idle next week and actually try to keep up.

@Jasonsith This still needs to be applied.

 

[Antvasima]

I did this. Progress on the rest?

Likely I will get more idle next week and actually try to keep up.

@Jasonsith This still needs to be applied.

@Jasonsith

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

@Jasonsith This still needs to be done.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

@Jasonsith Progress?

 

[Antvasima]

@Jasonsith

We need your help here.

 

[Antvasima]

Or is somebody else here willing to handle it please?

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

Bump.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

@Jasonsith It's been over half a year now. What have you done here, exactly?

 

[Antvasima]

@DontTalkDT @Executor_N0 @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Mr. Bambu @Therefir @Ugarik @DMUA @Damage3245 @TheRustyOne @DemonGodMitchAubin @Jasonsith @Wokistan @Armorchompy @Migue79 @Psychomaster35 @CloverDragon03 @Dark-Carioca @AbaddonTheDisappointment @Aguywhodoesthings @Agnaa @Dalesean027 @DemiiPowa @Flashlight237 @SeijiSetto @Chariot190 @SunDaGamer

Are any of you willing to help out with this please?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Sorry for the late reply, what is left to be done/applied here?

 

[Antvasima]

Sorry for the late reply, what is left to be done/applied here?

@IdiosyncraticLawyer

 

[Antvasima]

Your help is likely still needed here as well, @Jasonsith .

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

@Antvasima As @Jasonsith hasn't been active for two months, I believe we'll have to handle this thread without him. These are the conclusions that we came to:

What to do for us:

Summarise how many big types of natural events are there (earthquake, tsunami, volcano eruption, rain/rainstorm, snowstorm, star supernova, etc.)
Possibly list some ways in calculating yields for fictional natural events (like yield in drilling a hole from an earth surface to the earth mantle through the earth crust, yield in pumping lava from mantle through crust to surface, yield in forming clouds, etc)
List yields and other specific stats for specific new events (e.g. Krakatoa eruption, KT event, Chernobyl Incident, etc.)

Then someone make drafts on how each new natural event pages would look like.

And one of my findings is that cramming everything into one page is not a good idea.

Grouping the natural events by phenomenon ctaegory then list out notable events of such will be far more readable.

Well we are first deciding

1. how many types of big natural events are there

2. Then we decide how typically energy or speed yields of one event is derived.

3. THEN we can fill out how many historical events of one big natural event are there, and backtest our calculation against the ones calculated outside and post both findings and compare.

Say Krakatoa eruption, St Helen eruption etc all gets combined to t he page of volcano eruption (with brief event background listed), KT event will go to meteor strikes, etc.

Big direction is: condensing numerous occasions of big natural events into several pages classified by types of big natural events.

Now, the current classification:

Group into "Earthquake"
1960 Valdivia Earthquake
1964 Alaska Earthquake

Group into "Explosion incidents"
Halifax Explosion
Chernobyl Incident

Group into "Volcano eruption"
[/vs]Island Park Caldera super-eruption[/vs]
Krakatoa Eruption
La Garita Caldera super-eruption
Mount St Helens eruption
Mount Tambora Eruption
Mount Vesuvius eruption

(just keep as is)
Black Hole Collision Event
Hurricane (Real World)
Meteor Crater (should we rename that as Meteor Impact?)
Supernova
Theia Impact
Tornado

(up to discussion of whether to keep or set a new profile)

Chicxulub Impact Event (it is the biggest meteor collision / impoact event that caused the ultimate extinction of dinosaurs)
GRB 080916C
Ophiuchus Supercluster Eruption
SGR 1806-20 Starquake (should we group it under "Starquake"?)
Toba Mega Eruption
Tunguska Event

I would like to do this myself, but this is unfortunately not my area of expertise. @Executor_N0 @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Mr. Bambu @Therefir @Ugarik @DMUA @Damage3245 @TheRustyOne @DemonGodMitchAubin @Wokistan @Migue79 @Armorchompy @Psychomaster35 @CloverDragon03 @Dark-Carioca @AbaddonTheDisappointment @Aguywhodoesthings @Agnaa @Dalesean027 @DemiiPowa @Flashlight237 @SeijiSetto @SunDaGamer Are any of you willing to help out here?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Hmm... Not sure on this.

I feel like that'd be cramming a lot of things into one page (especially with how many eruptions there are), and I'm not sure it's all that necessary. But a lot of other staff members agreed with it, and I can still kinda see why (less pages to go through if it's just one).

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

@Antvasima As @Jasonsith hasn't been active for two months, I believe we'll have to handle this thread without him. These are the conclusions that we came to:

What to do for us:

Summarise how many big types of natural events are there (earthquake, tsunami, volcano eruption, rain/rainstorm, snowstorm, star supernova, etc.)
Possibly list some ways in calculating yields for fictional natural events (like yield in drilling a hole from an earth surface to the earth mantle through the earth crust, yield in pumping lava from mantle through crust to surface, yield in forming clouds, etc)
List yields and other specific stats for specific new events (e.g. Krakatoa eruption, KT event, Chernobyl Incident, etc.)

Then someone make drafts on how each new natural event pages would look like.

And one of my findings is that cramming everything into one page is not a good idea.

Grouping the natural events by phenomenon ctaegory then list out notable events of such will be far more readable.

Well we are first deciding

1. how many types of big natural events are there

2. Then we decide how typically energy or speed yields of one event is derived.

3. THEN we can fill out how many historical events of one big natural event are there, and backtest our calculation against the ones calculated outside and post both findings and compare.

Say Krakatoa eruption, St Helen eruption etc all gets combined to t he page of volcano eruption (with brief event background listed), KT event will go to meteor strikes, etc.

Big direction is: condensing numerous occasions of big natural events into several pages classified by types of big natural events.

Now, the current classification:

Group into "Earthquake"
1960 Valdivia Earthquake
1964 Alaska Earthquake

Group into "Explosion incidents"
Halifax Explosion
Chernobyl Incident

Group into "Volcano eruption"
[/vs]Island Park Caldera super-eruption[/vs]
Krakatoa Eruption
La Garita Caldera super-eruption
Mount St Helens eruption
Mount Tambora Eruption
Mount Vesuvius eruption

(just keep as is)
Black Hole Collision Event
Hurricane (Real World)
Meteor Crater (should we rename that as Meteor Impact?)
Supernova
Theia Impact
Tornado

(up to discussion of whether to keep or set a new profile)

Chicxulub Impact Event (it is the biggest meteor collision / impoact event that caused the ultimate extinction of dinosaurs)
GRB 080916C
Ophiuchus Supercluster Eruption
SGR 1806-20 Starquake (should we group it under "Starquake"?)
Toba Mega Eruption
Tunguska Event

I would like to do this myself, but this is unfortunately not my area of expertise.

@Executor_N0 @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Mr. Bambu @Therefir @Ugarik @DMUA @Damage3245 @TheRustyOne @DemonGodMitchAubin @Wokistan @Migue79 @Armorchompy @Psychomaster35 @CloverDragon03 @Dark-Carioca @AbaddonTheDisappointment @Aguywhodoesthings @Agnaa @Dalesean027 @DemiiPowa @Flashlight237 @SeijiSetto @SunDaGamer Are any of you willing to help out here?

 

[Antvasima]

@DontTalkDT @Executor_N0 @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Mr. Bambu @Therefir @Ugarik @DMUA @Damage3245 @TheRustyOne @DemonGodMitchAubin @Wokistan @Armorchompy @Migue79 @Psychomaster35 @CloverDragon03 @Dark-Carioca @AbaddonTheDisappointment @Aguywhodoesthings @Agnaa @Dalesean027 @DemiiPowa @Flashlight237 @SeijiSetto @SunDaGamer

I would also greatly appreciate if you are willing to help out here.

Condensing Natural Phenomena into one page

@Antvasima @IdiosyncraticLawyer Sorry for the late update The next step is Once you see my regrouping is appropriate, I shall make a sandbox on the draft pages of those pages and - once approved - proceed to make pages on the new natural phenomena pages.

vsbattles.com

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

@Antvasima Jasonsith has retired completely now, so how is this supposed to proceed now?

 

[Antvasima]

@Antvasima Jasonsith has retired completely now, so how is this supposed to proceed now?

@DontTalkDT @Executor_N0 @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Mr. Bambu @Therefir @Ugarik @Damage3245 @TheRustyOne @Jasonsith @Wokistan @Armorchompy @Migue79 @Psychomaster35 @CloverDragon03 @KLOL506 @Dark-Carioca @AbaddonTheDisappointment @Aguywhodoesthings @Agnaa @Dalesean027 @DemiiPowa @Flashlight237 @SeijiSetto @SunDaGamer @Vzearr

Are any of you willing to handle this quite important task instead please?

 

[Antvasima]

(Yes, I am aware that I forgot to remove Jasonsith from my list above. )

 

[KLOL506]

Damn, Jasonsith retired as well? People be retiring like crazy it seems.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, we have to retire them after sufficiently long periods of inactivity or not helping out at all.

 

[KLOL506]

bump

 

[Antvasima]

Would you or somebody else in our calc group be willing to handle this quite important task please?

 

[KLOL506]

I can't, since I'm on an edit ban and I don't wanna set a bad example, plus I suck at editing tables.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Never mind then.

@DontTalkDT @Executor_N0 @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Mr. Bambu @Therefir @Ugarik @Damage3245 @TheRustyOne @Wokistan @Armorchompy @Migue79 @Psychomaster35 @CloverDragon03 @Dark-Carioca @AbaddonTheDisappointment @Aguywhodoesthings @Agnaa @Dalesean027 @DemiiPowa @Flashlight237 @SeijiSetto @SunDaGamer @Vzearr

We would still greatly appreciate some help here.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Hmm... Not sure on this.

I feel like that'd be cramming a lot of things into one page (especially with how many eruptions there are), and I'm not sure it's all that necessary. But a lot of other staff members agreed with it, and I can still kinda see why (less pages to go through if it's just one).

My opinion is the same as this.

I don't believe I'm even qualified, nor have the time, to assist with this.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for your reply.

 

[Vzearr]

What needs to be done?

 

[Antvasima]

To me (perhaps to me only but I would like you to think):

Making all natural phenomena into one page can become very crowded.

I have tried and maybe 24 hours so can dig back the draft.



Splitting it into several pages for main natural phenomena (storms, earthquakes, volcanoes, etc.) will make things more systematic while keeping things relevant and precise.

It is easy to just say "I prefer this" "I prefer that" but I would like you all to think about it.

Spoken from one who actually attempted to draft them into one page.

Jasonsith/sandbox

vsbattles.fandom.com

(please try to fix your eyes at the natural phenomena part as I have other irrelevant parts in the sandbox)

To me that is oversimplifying. You can continue to see if we can classify them into several big categories. Maybe we can "meet the middle" by actually having several pages of each main phenomena. Then some events can be grouped and make things more precise (which is what you should aim at in condensing things into one page) while keeping relevant distinctive information distinctive enough.

And it will be easier for future maintenance work when we group the pages of small pages (like St Helen eruption, Krakatoa eruption) into several main natural phenomena (volcano eruption) instead of just calling it "natural phenomenon".

Like if some volcano calculation or references has to be edited, one needs not to compete against other calculations like earthquakes and storms.

(Meanwhile, I would like to hear why some of you prefer one single page of all natural phenomena over several big ones.)

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On a separate topic, despite whether the condensed natural phenomena pages be condensed into several big pages or one super big page, we still need to standardise/redesign our framework on how to cramp the standardised and condensed information (it may be easier if we design this for several pages instead of one big page but still a format is needed).

What to do for us:

Summarise how many big types of natural events are there (earthquake, tsunami, volcano eruption, rain/rainstorm, snowstorm, star supernova, etc.)
Possibly list some ways in calculating yields for fictional natural events (like yield in drilling a hole from an earth surface to the earth mantle through the earth crust, yield in pumping lava from mantle through crust to surface, yield in forming clouds, etc)
List yields and other specific stats for specific new events (e.g. Krakatoa eruption, KT event, Chernobyl Incident, etc.)

Then someone make drafts on how each new natural event pages would look like.

And one of my findings is that cramming everything into one page is not a good idea.

Grouping the natural events by phenomenon ctaegory then list out notable events of such will be far more readable.

Well we are first deciding

1. how many types of big natural events are there

2. Then we decide how typically energy or speed yields of one event is derived.

3. THEN we can fill out how many historical events of one big natural event are there, and backtest our calculation against the ones calculated outside and post both findings and compare.

Say Krakatoa eruption, St Helen eruption etc all gets combined to t he page of volcano eruption (with brief event background listed), KT event will go to meteor strikes, etc.

Big direction is: condensing numerous occasions of big natural events into several pages classified by types of big natural events.

Noted.

Will find some time to read through them during the weekend.

And really try to regroup them before making drafts of separate group pages

First
Glitch Event, Comet Telos Impact Event, Meteor (One Punch Man) and The Cosmic (CAOS) are irrelevant to our discussion, but are in the "events" category somehow.
Ask relevant verse knowledgeable members on how to reallocate such events.

Second, most pages in "real world" refer to real world animals, plants, weapons and vehicles so I will not touch most of them.

---

Now, the current classification:

Group into "Earthquake"
1960 Valdivia Earthquake
1964 Alaska Earthquake

Group into "Explosion incidents"
Halifax Explosion
Chernobyl Incident

Group into "Volcano eruption"
[/vs]Island Park Caldera super-eruption[/vs]
Krakatoa Eruption
La Garita Caldera super-eruption
Mount St Helens eruption
Mount Tambora Eruption
Mount Vesuvius eruption

(just keep as is)
Black Hole Collision Event
Hurricane (Real World)
Meteor Crater (should we rename that as Meteor Impact?)
Supernova
Theia Impact
Tornado

(up to discussion of whether to keep or set a new profile)

Chicxulub Impact Event (it is the biggest meteor collision / impoact event that caused the ultimate extinction of dinosaurs)
GRB 080916C
Ophiuchus Supercluster Eruption
SGR 1806-20 Starquake (should we group it under "Starquake"?)
Toba Mega Eruption
Tunguska Event

@Antvasima @IdiosyncraticLawyer
Sorry for the late update


The next step is
Once you see my regrouping is appropriate, I shall make a sandbox on the draft pages of those pages and - once approved - proceed to make pages on the new natural phenomena pages.

I think that this is what needs to be done here.

@IdiosyncraticLawyer

 

[Antvasima]

First
Glitch Event, Comet Telos Impact Event, Meteor (One Punch Man) and The Cosmic (CAOS) are irrelevant to our discussion, but are in the "events" category somehow.
Ask relevant verse knowledgeable members on how to reallocate such events.

I did this. Progress on the rest?

IdiosyncraticLawyer seems to have already handled this part btw.