Strongest 5-D Characters on the Wiki

[Brogeefrong]

Dbh characters would kinda ap stomp tbh

What is the multiplier gap for dbh? Sonic also has infinite 5D, aswell as the mulitplier from L4-C to L2-C

 

[Killerdrone123]

What is the multiplier gap for dbh? Sonic also has infinite 5D, aswell as the mulitplier from L4-C to L2-C

No I dont think so only imaginary world is 5d

 

[Brogeefrong]

tbh idk whats being accepted, to be 5D between cyberspace and mw or just mw rn

 

[Killerdrone123]

tbh idk whats being accepted, to be 5D between cyberspace and mw or just mw rn

Does maginary world hold infinite cyberspace or something

 

[Brogeefrong]

Does maginary world hold infinite cyberspace or something

Cyberspace is considered a dream on the thread, and Countless/Possibly Infinite dreams can be held in mw

 

[Killerdrone123]

Cyberspace is considered a dream on the thread, and Countless/Possibly Infinite dreams can be held in mw

Ah ok but I think only mw is agreed to 5d

 

[Brogeefrong]

so i found this guy at wizard101, and he has TD type 2 aspect 2, I think wizard101 should go up?

 

[Eseseso]

so i found this guy at wizard101, and he has TD type 2 aspect 2, I think wizard101 should go up?

His profile will be deleted soon, so no.

 

[Robo432343]

It’s pretty much accepted sonic is 5D

 

[Eseseso]

It’s pretty much accepted sonic is 5D

Cyber stuff might get law/causality hax (which would give it to all Super Forms), but until then they still have CM Type 1 and Type 2 Info Hax.

And Type 4 Acausality.

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

It’s pretty much accepted sonic is 5D

Happiest day of my Vs debating life. While Sonic doesn't have a way to Kill the Looney Toons cast due to High-Godly, does he have ways to incapacitate them? The God Tiers of Sonic seem to resist alot of the broken stuff both the Looney Toons cast and The Wizard 101 characters have to throw at them while having their own shenanigans. I think the Sonic characters should go in the #5 slot, above the Wizard 101 cast but below Kratos due to his Conceptual Invulnerability and Hax layers. Though I do wonder how a fight with Magic Chris Thorndyke would go now that Kingdom Hearts lost it's 27 layers.

 

[Eseseso]

Happiest day of my Vs debating life. While Sonic doesn't have a way to Kill the Looney Toons cast due to High-Godly, does he have ways to incapacitate them?

BFR that will likely be 5D after revisions?

 

[Eseseso]

Passive info corruption

Oh yeah, forgot that Cyber Super Sonic has passive layered type 2 info corruption.

 

[Eseseso]

wouldn’t sonic vs w101 be incon coz of passive resistance neg

I'm not sure if they have Type 1 Concept Hax like Sonic people do.

 

[Brogeefrong]

wouldn’t sonic vs w101 be incon coz of passive resistance neg

Wouldnt null passive Info, but depending on how potent their passive hax are it could be incon

 

[Brogeefrong]

Why can’t info be absorbed?

They havent been shown to absorb something on that level

 

[Greenshifter]

remember a guy made a crt for magic being cm 1

Was it Ben Clevername?

 

[Greenshifter]

CM Type 1 =/= info hax here, the 2 are incomparable. Ask the DBH bros.

 

[Greenshifter]

I think it was either Ben or zenkai

Oh, doesn’t matter then. They have all of each other’s scans for the verse iirc.

 

[Greenshifter]

Ben was finally made mod on CSAP, it took ages despite bro clearly being knowledgeable AF and everyone already treating him as staff before he actually was one.

 

[Greenshifter]

Also for the record, W101 is really weak on VSBW compared to how strong it should be. It’s comparable to Ben 10, my Ben 10 scaling.

 

[Greenshifter]

I see gow ppl saying cm 1>>>info
This can be settled if someone makes a qna thread and a staff member answers them

Was settled a long time ago by the DBH bros, I think the GoW people are right from a logical standpoint but I doubt it’ll fly on here.

 

[Brogeefrong]

I see gow ppl saying cm 1>>>info
Only way This can be settled if someone makes a qna thread and a staff member answers them

By default yeah Cm1 is above Info Type 2, but both DBH and Sonic have Info type 2 on a higher degree

 

[Greenshifter]

Oh boi… I don’t have much for R > F, so outer^2, same as on CSAP (they call it high outer there). This is assuming I can prove all of CN is a single verse.

 

[Eseseso]

Also for the record, W101 is really weak on VSBW compared to how strong it should be. It’s comparable to Ben 10, my Ben 10 scaling.

It's direly in need of revisions, but it has no active supporters anymore on the wiki.

 

[Greenshifter]

It's direly in need of revisions, but it has no active supporters anymore on the wiki.

Yeah, sucks

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

I see gow ppl saying cm 1>>>info
Only way This can be settled if someone makes a qna thread and a staff member answers them

It’s literally how the site works.

If you regenerate from conceptual 1 erasure; it doesn’t mean you can regenerate from info 2 erasure. The same logic applies here they’re incomparable. There’s no need to get this settled because that’s literally how it works. It’s like saying if you argue resisting Law Manipulation means you resist Reality Warping, they’re incomparable.

 

[Robo432343]

It’s literally how the site works.

If you regenerate from conceptual 1 erasure; it doesn’t mean you can regenerate from info 2 erasure. The same logic applies here they’re incomparable. There’s no need to get this settled because that’s literally how it works. It’s like saying if you argue resisting Law Manipulation means you resist Reality Warping, they’re incomparable.

If that’s how the site works then why tf are people disagreeing with the standards without making a crt
Its best I make a qna

 

[Brogeefrong]

True
But it wouldn’t matter coz of the creator guy’s TD

wouldnt they all tie

 

[Ss3micah]

I see gow ppl saying cm 1>>>info
Only way This can be settled if someone makes a qna thread and a staff member answers them

By default yeah Cm1 is above Info Type 2, but both DBH and Sonic have Info type 2 on a higher degree

This was already Done
The general consensus as of now is that Plot Manipulation, Concept Type 1 and Info Type 2 are all comparably equivalent to each other by default

No Hax is innately or by default superior to the other in any regard unless by specific inverse context of that being the case

 

[Brogeefrong]

isn't solaris more haxxed than sonic?

He has temporal omnipresences, but that dosent help against most people who can fight evenly with the hedgehog, also he dosent have the passive Layered Law, Casuality or Info

 

[Eseseso]

Asides from soon having Law/Causality hax, Super Sonic has the following:

1. Type 1 & 4 Acausality
2. Type 1 CM
3. Type 2 Info hax
4. Invulnerability and Negation of Invulnerability
5. Power null
6. Low Godly Regen negation
7. Speed amps up the wazoo
8. Dream Manipulation


And resistance to:

• Law Hax
• Memory Hax
• Death Manipulation
• Concept Hax (Type 1)
• Dream Hax
• Type 2 Info Hax
• Reality Warping

 

[Greenshifter]

If that’s how the site works then why tf are people disagreeing with the standards without making a crt

It would likely become a sunk cost.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Why were dbh characters removed

 

[Brogeefrong]

Btw is vampire hunter’s plot manip layered, cause Sonic has plot manipulation resistance, although they might get removed cuz upgrades so it might be null answering this

 

[Roun12]

Why were dbh characters removed

Hax layers aren't formally evaluated yet. They should be able to easily take their spot back once it's sorted out though.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Hax layers aren't formally evaluated yet. They should be able to easily take their spot back once it's sorted out though.

Dark factor for now has layers, two layers, with several 5-D things (although it still doesn't go through the layered hax thread). And for example, not all of Sonic's resistances are 5-D (assuming that the 4-D became 5-D).

Also, did Sonic go through the hax layering thread? If he didn't pass, he has to pass for the layers to be evaluated.

 

[Brogeefrong]

Dark factor for now has layers, two layers, with several 5-D things (although it still doesn't go through the layered hax thread). And for example, not all of Sonic's resistances are 5-D (assuming that the 4-D became 5-D).

Also, did Sonic go through the hax layering thread? If he didn't pass, he has to pass for the layers to be evaluated.

Right now they have 1 layer, but waiting for the other evaluations to go down to do the layers

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Right now they have 1 layer, but waiting for the other evaluations to go down to do the layers

Who has a layer? Sonic? Did this layer pass through the hax thread?

 

[Brogeefrong]

Who has a layer? Sonic? Did this layer pass through the hax thread?

It's says greater Information manip on hidden power sonic's from sonic's baseline on his normal super state