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Strongest 5-D Characters on the Wiki

Its basically Universe Tree Goku vs Kratos but Goku has a 346x speed amp + 4x reaction speed on top of that
 
Btw we had Archie Sonic incon with kratos and game sonic probably more haxed minus the fate hax and layers on cm
 
will have to ask tempest
sonic resist death manip?
oh shit he does but passive resistance neg still works
Btw sonics passives might be faster then normal passives and i say that because he beat rimuru who had passive layered EE and sonic won cause of corruption and speed amps, although im uncertain about it
 
Btw sonics passives might be faster then normal passives and i say that because he beat rimuru who had passive layered EE and sonic won cause of corruption and speed amps, although im uncertain about it
tf
there is no such thing as passives being faster than normal passives
if speed is equal then they both activate at the same time
 
Unfortunately, they had to go through the hax layer thread.
Even if they did it would prolly go through no sweat, as its clear that Cyber Space pierced through his 1 Layer Info resistence, trains to resist it later on, and can corrupt himself to use it against opponents
 
Even if they did it would prolly go through no sweat, as its clear that Cyber Space pierced through his 1 Layer Info resistence, trains to resist it later on, and can corrupt himself to use it against opponents
OK? I don't care about the layers of it. I just said that you need to go through the thread.
 
since no layers for DB so far, Sonic should beat even Universe Tree Goku
SDBH already has some layers, referring to Dark Ki, Demon God ki and Dark Factor.

Dark factor has 2 layers of hax and resistances to your own abilities in 5D power, and involves things like power null.

So if this VS ever happens, young Fu would probably be a better opponent.
 
ignoring the layers thread, who do you think would win Goku or sonic when he gets 5D?
it would go back to the scaling chains and those havent been hashed out, id go with sonic bcuz speed amps and his base went from L4-C to L2-C and Super/Hyper would get that multiplier so he could have higher ap
 
sonic vs dbh when?
i think it would be incon
Well, we made a bunch of matches like that in the past, when they are in the same tier, and DBH have won almost all of them. Stamina reduction is kinda OP.

We stop, because someone said they need a scaling chain for both series.
 
ZI-O has every single rider ability which includes plot hax 🗿
thats why i dont think its incon
However, 69omazio only has the power of the Heisei Kamen Rider and does not have the power of the Showa Peace Kamen Rider
 
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