Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Well, trying to derail Iam's discussion threads is not acceptable (although I don't think that posting single rude images quite qualify for being deliberate derailment), and if somebody genuinely tried to get Iam banned for illegitimate reasons that is even less acceptable, although Profectus has otherwise been a productive and well-behaved member as far as I recall.

As for the original Sailor Moon topic, Iam has likely not broken any current rules, but it still gets very tiresome for our staff to have to deal with the same types of upgrade attempts over and over and over, so taking reasonable breaks between them would at least be appreciated.

Thank you. That is most reasonable.

I will refrain from making any other tier 1 AP sailor moon threads for the next few months after my current thread has subsided.

I don’t see myself getting any new material anyway. If I do, I will consult and ask a mod their opinion if it is enough to try again or should wait till I have more or better evidence, after some time has passed such as six months.

 

[Antvasima]

I wasn't trying to derail, just wanted to have some laughs while waiting for staff to look at the thread

Okay, but you should still not mock him. It is rude and helps to create a bad atmosphere in our community regarding supposedly acceptable behaviour.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you. That is most reasonable.

I will refrain from making any other tier 1 AP sailor moon threads for the next few months after my current thread has subsided.

I don’t see myself getting any new material anyway. If I do, I will consult and ask a mod their opinion if it is enough to try again or should wait till I have more or better evidence, after some time has passed such as six months.

Okay. That seems fine to me at least.

 

[KingNanaya]

Okay, but you should still not mock him. It is rude and helps to create a bad atmosphere in our community regarding supposedly acceptable behaviour.

I understand. I won't do it again in the future

 

[Dereck03]

@Dereck03

Oops. I was reading the past RVT and found this, never got the notification about this message tbh. Well, 1 month seems fine as I said.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Recalling the @Jozaysmith? case, those people seems like bad blood. Despite the fact of Dereck being lenient towards them, they accused him and friends of his acting like a “criminal organisation” and as of now, even devising a scheme to get him and many other users banned. I thought the case been settled and we’ve been chill, but then there was all sort of targeting. I thought they were simply fuming at the start but turns out they were likely being serious about targeting people here, since they banned me from their server, again. Most staff users voted for a yearly ban against them, Dereck recasted his stance offsite and supported their ban. They may receive lenient punishment for accounts sharing but systematic targeting against members of the community should never be tolerated. Anyways, the case should be settled now. Unless if any other staff members have objections, those users can now be banned away.

 

[Dereck03]

Recalling the @Jozaysmith? case, those people seems like bad blood. Despite the fact of Dereck being lenient towards them, they accused him and friends of his acting like a “criminal organisation” and as of now, even devising a scheme to get him and many other users banned. I thought the case been settled and we’ve been chill, but then there was all sort of targeting. I thought they were simply fuming at the start but turns out they were likely being serious about targeting people here, since they banned me from their server, again. Most staff users voted for a yearly ban against them, Dereck recasted his stance offsite and supported their ban. They may receive lenient punishment for accounts sharing but systematic targeting against members of the community should never be tolerated. Anyways, the case should be settled now. Unless if any other staff members have objections, those users can now be banned away.

Hmmmm, now you put me in a tricky position..... Well, and me trying to turn a blind eye to this and this is how they treat things? Well, I retracted my 1 month ban and am going for the 1 year ban for the time being, as it depends if this type of behavior is acceptable or not possibly the ban will be extended.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Recalling the @Jozaysmith? case, those people seems like bad blood. Despite the fact of Dereck being lenient towards them, they accused him and friends of his acting like a “criminal organisation” and as of now, even devising a scheme to get him and many other users banned. I thought the case been settled and we’ve been chill, but then there was all sort of targeting. I thought they were simply fuming at the start but turns out they were likely being serious about targeting people here, since they banned me from their server, again. Most staff users voted for a yearly ban against them, Dereck recasted his stance offsite and supported their ban. They may receive lenient punishment for accounts sharing but systematic targeting against members of the community should never be tolerated. Anyways, the case should be settled now. Unless if any other staff members have objections, those users can now be banned away.

This indeed sounds problematic yes.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Recalling the @Jozaysmith? case, those people seems like bad blood. Despite the fact of Dereck being lenient towards them, they accused him and friends of his acting like a “criminal organisation” and as of now, even devising a scheme to get him and many other users banned. I thought the case been settled and we’ve been chill, but then there was all sort of targeting. I thought they were simply fuming at the start but turns out they were likely being serious about targeting people here, since they banned me from their server, again. Most staff users voted for a yearly ban against them, Dereck recasted his stance offsite and supported their ban. They may receive lenient punishment for accounts sharing but systematic targeting against members of the community should never be tolerated. Anyways, the case should be settled now. Unless if any other staff members have objections, those users can now be banned away.

I am sorry to ask but... is there evidence for that? I mean screenshots and so on, as that's a pretty big accusation.

 

[GarrixianXD]

I am sorry to ask but... is there evidence for that? I mean screenshots and so on, as that's a pretty big accusation.

I trusted them enough to not take it that far so I didn’t take sufficiently enough, I do have one but it won’t cover the entire context. @TWILIGHT-OP Was there, I’m sure he can verify.

 

[StrymULTRA]

I trusted them enough to not take it that far so I didn’t take sufficiently enough, I do have one but it won’t cover the entire context. @TWILIGHT-OP Was there, I’m sure he can verify.

That'd be better yes.

 

[GarrixianXD]

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

@TWILIGHT-OP Was there, I’m sure he can verify.

Yeah unfortunately it's true.
But would like to add more context they also said they have evidence for their claims.

But yeah targeting someone is still not so good behaviour.

 

[Dr._whiteee]

I would appreciate some official clarification on this matter as to not have to fear being reported in the future as from my understandimg Void manip in said thread was passed due to grace, more admin support, and lack of counter arguments from the disagreeing mods. If I am mistaken I would like this to be clarified.

bump

 

[Jozaysmith?]

Recalling the @Jozaysmith? case, those people seems like bad blood. Despite the fact of Dereck being lenient towards them, they accused him and friends of his acting like a “criminal organisation” and as of now, even devising a scheme to get him and many other users banned. I thought the case been settled and we’ve been chill, but then there was all sort of targeting. I thought they were simply fuming at the start but turns out they were likely being serious about targeting people here, since they banned me from their server, again. Most staff users voted for a yearly ban against them, Dereck recasted his stance offsite and supported their ban. They may receive lenient punishment for accounts sharing but systematic targeting against members of the community should never be tolerated. Anyways, the case should be settled now. Unless if any other staff members have objections, those users can now be banned away.

Excuse me but was this targetting you claim performed
How is that even targeting??
I have ss, if you guys want that its not an accusation lol if you prefer me to expose a private chat of the claims and bad mouthing of a mod they perform then sure.
I rather not do it, but i can, you can choose should i provide evidence and cause more drama or should i keep it to myself and we hop over your claims on this issues?
Because i didn't plan to report anyone lol if you want me to then i can Anyways

 

[Jozaysmith?]

Yeah unfortunately it's true.
But would like to add more context they also said they have evidence for their claims.

But yeah targeting someone is still not so good behaviour.

Like a whole ton of them am still there in their server anyways hehe

 

[GarrixianXD]

Excuse me but was this targetting you claim performed
How is that even targeting??
I have ss, if you guys want that its not an accusation lol if you prefer me to expose a private chat of the claims abd bad mouthing of a mod they perform then sure

You referred to a discord server, a private group where I was in and I saw absolutely nothing there that can worth a ban from this community. If you have evidence to file against Dereck then feel free to contact HR, however, judging by the fact you banned me from your server and even mentioned names of people you don’t know gives me a sense you are enacting shenanigans.

 

[Jozaysmith?]

You referred to a discord server, a private group where I was in and I saw absolutely nothing there that can worth a ban from this community. If you have evidence to file against Dereck then feel free to contact HR, however, judging by the fact you banned me from your server and even mentioned names of people you don’t know gives me a sense you are enacting shenanigans.

Yo
If you want evidence i can show you evidence saying you didn't see anything isn't cutting it
I also allegedly claim to want them ban but that's not a crime, as far as am aware of
Also i have the authority to ban anyone from my server i wasn't hiding anything i didn't just want you there, i was banned on your server because that's what you wanted so am totally free to do the Same

 

[GarrixianXD]

Yo
If you want evidence i can show you evidence saying you didn't see anything isn't cutting it
I also allegedly claim to want them ban but that's not a crime, as far as am aware of
Also i have the authority to ban anyone from my server i wasn't hiding anything i didn't just want you there, i was banned on your server because that's what you wanted so am totally free to do the Same

And I didn’t ask to return and I have the rights to suspect you for various reasons, especially after my ban. This is a HR matter if you’re really gonna file a report, I won’t have anything to do with it

 

[Jozaysmith?]

And I didn’t ask to return and I have the rights to suspect you for various reasons, especially after my ban. This is a HR matter if you’re really file a report, I won’t have anything to do with it

Its not really until they ask for proof or ss i wont pry any further
Its true everyone have the right to suspect people and i won't accuse anyone of that but am the said person is innocent until proven guilty
Also yeah the reason i wont bring this up or carry the issue further because no one like their private chat being leaked
I was nearly banned because of that anyways so yeah i won't pry unless am asked to

 

[GarrixianXD]

You’re already on thin ice. 3 staff members already advocated your ban before I recalled your case, nonetheless, it’s not my decision. I’ll let the other admins be the judge. So far: Qaws, Maverick, Dereck and Deagon all advocated for your yearly ban.

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mario someones edited all the mario profiles, I'm not sure if this came from a crt, but no added info has been provided for those tiers

 

[Dereck03]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mario someones edited all the mario profiles, I'm not sure if this came from a crt, but no added info has been provided for those tiers

I've reverted the changes, I'm on mobile so I can't give the user instructions so I'd appreciate if any other staff could.

 

[GarrixianXD]

I checked all their edits and they even changed a character’s tier to 0, along with a series of incoherent edits. Blatant troll to me, blocked.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Taking a moment to publicly report @Shining_Cross for aggressive and troll-like behavior here (about 50% of their recent posts in this thread are an example of this behavior, you're free to read through the adjacent pages as well if you like). Some examples, for those unwilling to delve into Weeb territory:

Whois again is not C***natoSparkle

Haku doesn't corelate with the character being discussed so it is irrelevant

That say no matter how strong the body and how fast the speed, it's non factor once get into Tsukuyomi world because that world is genjutsu world and get controlled by Itachi xD, learn to read

Repeatinggg, the art of repeatingggg . The Kirin stuff get retconned by Madara's Light Fang statement in this whole debate

That Samurai guy doesn't have correlation with the character being discussed

Nothing say Kabuto's attack is LS there xD

Like whattt??? The whole point are Madara kicked Minato SM boosted ass, contradicted Madara's speed is LS xD

Cope, the most headcanon and subjective person ever born your mom must be sad

You don't have to push your body if the level is too high, be kind to your body . Start from a lower level first, like children's stories

I still have an argument, but where should I present it? The moderator is not even good, maybe he is afraid a ton of calcs for all series will be brought down

The last one was what was initially reported to me, since I'm told it was directed towards me for closing a thread the man had made. He made comments in this thread, too:

Whatever, just don't use it. Using something wrong seems you have health issue

This isn't all, of course, I was skipping through the pages of the Naruto discussion thread and picking whatever immediate examples I found. I don't have a strong sense of what action ought to be taken, but a warning is at least necessary to prevent this sort of thing being continued: it is entirely disruptive. Yes, people were reciprocating silliness back at him, which is part of why I didn't deign to report the first incidents showed to me. But at this point this is sustained behavior over many days, and serves zero purpose aside from generating disruption and petty insults.

 

[Damage3245]

I think that a short ban - maybe a couple of weeks - would be useful for Shining Cross with a strict warning that he should improve his behaviour on the forum when he returns.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

He did call a user a slur word that Fandom considers ban worthy (That being the 4 letter C word that's considered Misandrist); so I think we reflect how Fandom treats that. It was clearly an insulting context too. I believe Fandom usually bans 3-6 months for stuff like that.

 

[Antvasima]

Recalling the @Jozaysmith? case, those people seems like bad blood. Despite the fact of Dereck being lenient towards them, they accused him and friends of his acting like a “criminal organisation” and as of now, even devising a scheme to get him and many other users banned. I thought the case been settled and we’ve been chill, but then there was all sort of targeting. I thought they were simply fuming at the start but turns out they were likely being serious about targeting people here, since they banned me from their server, again. Most staff users voted for a yearly ban against them, Dereck recasted his stance offsite and supported their ban. They may receive lenient punishment for accounts sharing but systematic targeting against members of the community should never be tolerated. Anyways, the case should be settled now. Unless if any other staff members have objections, those users can now be banned away.

You’re already on thin ice. 3 staff members already advocated your ban before I recalled your case, nonetheless, it’s not my decision. I’ll let the other admins be the judge. So far: Qaws, Maverick, Dereck and Deagon all advocated for your yearly ban.

That seems fine to me as well. These members do not appear to be acting in good faith, which does not paint them as the sort of people that we want as part of our community. Targeting Dereck03, who is one of our most valuable members, after he tried to be lenient towards them, is definitely not acceptable, for example.

 

[Antvasima]

He did call a user a slur word that Fandom considers ban worthy (That being the 4 letter C word that's considered Misandrist); so I think we reflect how Fandom treats that. It was clearly an insulting context too. I believe Fandom usually bans 3-6 months for stuff like that.

They are not that harsh for using the term as far as I recall, but that member also seems to be acting in very bad faith by trolling, systematically acting extremely rude, and spreading a bad atmosphere in our community in general, so I do not mind a permanent block for him, but would appreciate staff input regarding for how long we should ban him.

 

[Dereck03]

That seems fine to me as well. These members do not appear to be acting in good faith, which does not paint them as the sort of people that we want as part of our community.

I can argue the same thing, by the way, if somehow a report is made against me through the HR, I want to be aware of what evidence is used against me, because considering this attitude they can use nonsense or take too many things out of context, so i can give the necessary context to any baseless accusation, although it is enough to prove that there is nothing that will result in any report or ban as garrixian pointed out, heck, i even have Ovens and Maverick on that server as well, so if there was something like they say that could result in the block of many people I doubt very much that those 2 administrators have not reported such behavior and even more coming from a moderator like me.

 

[Jozaysmith?]

I can argue the same thing, by the way, if somehow a report is made against me through the HR, I want to be aware of what evidence is used against me, because considering this attitude they can use nonsense or take too many things out of context, so i can give the necessary context to any baseless accusation, although it is enough to prove that there is nothing that will result in any report or ban as garrixian pointed out, heck, i even have Ovens and Maverick on that server as well, so if there was something like they say that could result in the block of many people I doubt very much that those 2 administrators have not reported such behavior and even more coming from a moderator like me.

I didn't report anyone or come to wiki and say i want to report anyone again stop carrying offsite claims to wiki honestly this is becoming a pain in the ass
I only said in Discord That "Now that i get to see all the nonsense they have been saying i get to report them" Have i reported you?
Did i come to wiki to report you?
No, please let's drop the matter If you want me report the case on the other server members then please specify I can report all of them here
which is seriously prolonging this issue and i seriously don't want that if you do then its your choice.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, it is a good point that they haven't actually tried to get any of our staff or other valuable members banned on loose or unreliable premises yet, so they may or may not have just privately mouthed off to each other without intending to actually cause lots of trouble, but it is hard to gauge.

 

[Antvasima]

I can argue the same thing, by the way, if somehow a report is made against me through the HR, I want to be aware of what evidence is used against me, because considering this attitude they can use nonsense or take too many things out of context, so i can give the necessary context to any baseless accusation, although it is enough to prove that there is nothing that will result in any report or ban as garrixian pointed out, heck, i even have Ovens and Maverick on that server as well, so if there was something like they say that could result in the block of many people I doubt very much that those 2 administrators have not reported such behavior and even more coming from a moderator like me.

Yes. Agreed.

 

[Jozaysmith?]

Well, it is a good point that they haven't actually tried to get any of our staff or other valuable members banned on loose or unreliable premises yet, so they may or may not have just privately mouthed off to each other without intending to actually cause lots of trouble, but it is hard to gauge.

I have 0 intention to report anyone no matter what or target anyone
People often say things in the spur of the moment offside
There's also more context to this which i can provide

 

[Antvasima]

Okay, so you were mainly just blowing off steam then?

Mizuki also just mentioned in private to me that you two were angry for the following reasons:

"They attempt to nuke tensura related crt , possibly trying to ban us from tensei slime server, using evidence from past jozay behavior not for the sake of report but ruining his reputation. These are the reasons why we were mad."

 

[Jozaysmith?]

Okay, so you were mainly just blowing off steam then?

Mizuki also just mentioned in private to me that you two were angry for the following reasons:

"They attempt to nuke tensura related crt , possibly trying to ban us from tensei slime server, using evidence from past jozay behavior not for the sake of report but ruining his reputation. These are the reasons why we were mad."

This is correct i got banned on other servers i like after being reported by an unknown person this unknown person also told them i got banned in wiki as well
Which, yes got me angry and made me say
"I'll report them"
I'll do this and do that, on a normal note i rather not deal with reporting people or making claims to get them banned or punished it's not a good thing on site

 

[Antvasima]

Okay then.

So would the rest of you here be fine with if we ignore this latest event, and return to the punishment for the original offenses, which was 1 month if I recall correctly?

 

[GarrixianXD]

This is correct i got banned on other servers i like after being reported by an unknown person this unknown person also told them i got banned in wiki as well
Which, yes got me angry and made me say
"I'll report them"
I'll do this and do that, on a normal note i rather not deal with reporting people or making claims to get them banned or punished it's not a good thing on site

You can't just suspect that it's Dereck and his associates are the ones who's been targeting you across Discord without evidence. Nonetheless, if you're genuinely not going to cause any further trouble then I'm fine with you staying, however, my (a staff with no evaluation rights) opinion won't override the four other evaluation staff's stance on this case. If you're going to stay under any circumstance, I wish not to hear from you on this thread, especially regarding this entire ordeal.

Okay then.

So would the rest of you here be fine with if we ignore this latest event, and return to the punishment for the original offenses, which was 1 month if I recall correctly?

There's been too many issues with those people. And I've heard many excuses of them saying that Star (Jozaysmith?) is often aggressive and fumes out of his own ego, or even gets mad and loses control; causing him to spurt out anything that'll give him satisfaction, but not an actual threat who needs to be quelled. This case has been tiresome and I've been extremely stressed lately, I can only remain neutral at best given all my lenience.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem. Please take good care of yourself.

 

[Mizuki67]

Okay. No problem. Please take good care of yourself.

i am really thankfull of you for giving us another chance. I apprieciate it