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So 2-B canon Goku when lol? (J.K)
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Nah he doesn't
Yeah you're right about that
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Yes he does
And yes
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Oh wow Goku vs Superman 3...meh.
Chapter 99 shows the one-armed Cell Max be injured multiple times by Orange Piccolo (who didn't take a senzu) with Piccolo even losing an arm himself. And we see things like Gamma 1's blast blow off one of Max's wings and him even shielding Piccolo from a killing blast or Krillin weakening a wing with his Destructo Disc so 18 can smash it off. Gotenks also takes a direct blow from Cell Max and lives (again).
Given all of the above plus Piccolo telling Gohan to charge his Ki until his power surpasses Max's along with Gohan saying he's 'nearly there' I think it's fair to assume Cell Max did get heavily weakened from Gamma 2's attack, to the extent Gamma 1 can blow up a wing and block an energy blast intended to kill a weakened Orange Piccolo.
So...could Gohan Beast actually beat Cell Max without Gamma 2 weakening him so much that even Ultimate Gohan could surpass his power with a bit of time and when Gamma 1 can take his strongest attacks? Not so sure now.
Gohan Beast ? Cell Max > Gamma 2 (Overdrive) ~ Orange Piccolo >> FP Ultimate Gohan > Cell Max (One-armed) > Orange Piccolo (Weakened) > Ultimate Gohan ~ Ultimate Piccolo ~ Gamma 1 = Gamma 2 ~ Goten = Trunks > Android 18 ~ Krillin
Chapter 99 shows the one-armed Cell Max be injured multiple times by Orange Piccolo (who didn't take a senzu) with Piccolo even losing an arm himself. And we see things like Gamma 1's blast blow off one of Max's wings and him even shielding Piccolo from a killing blast or Krillin weakening a wing with his Destructo Disc so 18 can smash it off. Gotenks also takes a direct blow from Cell Max and lives (again).
Given all of the above plus Piccolo telling Gohan to charge his Ki until his power surpasses Max's along with Gohan saying he's 'nearly there' I think it's fair to assume Cell Max did get heavily weakened from Gamma 2's attack, to the extent Gamma 1 can blow up a wing and block an energy blast intended to kill a weakened Orange Piccolo.
So...could Gohan Beast actually beat Cell Max without Gamma 2 weakening him so much that even Ultimate Gohan could surpass his power with a bit of time and when Gamma 1 can take his strongest attacks? Not so sure now.
Gohan Beast ? Cell Max > Gamma 2 (Overdrive) ~ Orange Piccolo >> FP Ultimate Gohan > Cell Max (One-armed) > Orange Piccolo (Weakened) > Ultimate Gohan ~ Ultimate Piccolo ~ Gamma 1 = Gamma 2 ~ Goten = Trunks > Android 18 ~ Krillin
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He absolutely doesn't but okay
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He does but sure
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Or maybe Ultimate Gohan just got massively stronger ? The fact that Orange Piccolo thought Gohan would stand a better chance at killing Cell max than himself proves that Gohan after eating the senzu surpassed Orange Piccolo, also the wings doesn't have any durability feats from what I remember
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In your Dreams ? Maybe but in reality ? Nah
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In reality yes he does win
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The manga stated Goku and Vegeta hit the limit of Zenkai long ago and it has never been stated or hinted that Gohan still has it. That also doesn't make sense with things like Gamma 1 tanking Cell Max's blast to save Orange Piccolo or Gamma 1 just blowing up one of his wings.
Fezzih_007
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Aren't those the same people who claimed that Green lantern beat Alien x
Peak discussion fr fr
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i think hes talking about the immeasurable speed that sometimes comes with higher temporal dimension scaling
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uhhhhhhh because he can uhhhhh checks the blog erase a 5 dimensional hypertimeline?would he really be able to achieve that with finite speed?
idk im still new to this dimensional stuff
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Yeah dc doesnt have any infinite-D mentions (or at least the ones I have seen are out of context) and mr.mxy is very explicit when he describes that the whole dc multiverse is composed of 4 dimensions.
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Doesn't matter in the Deathbattle.
Superman is going to be outerversal and get like full cosmology++ scaling.
Killerdrone123
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I think he agreed on full resistance later right
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Yea
He missed the part about Whis and Vados taking the aura
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bro why are they making goku vs superman 3
are they going to use DBH or something??
are they going to use DBH or something??
Spinoirr
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Yeah
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which version of superman are they using??
Spinoirr
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Rebirth, who is basically already a cannon composite
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Why Persona?
Spinoirr
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Because 1-A, immeasurable LS and Speed
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I'm thinking Hero characters are actually rated as faster unironically.
Spinoirr
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Heroes speed and Persona's ap for heroes Goku then vs superman
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Heroes' immeasurable speed is moving across separate 5-D timelines so unless Persona's immeasurable speed is 1-A level...
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Immeasurable speed isn't dictated by dimensionality, atleast from what I believe.
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It's dictated by moving throughout different eras across the multiverse. They're moving along multiple 5-D axis
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Deadass if it weren't for speed equalization, DBH would just blitz most of the Low 1-C tier
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I ain't denying that at all.
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I just wanna put it out there cuz most people don't realize that DBH's immeasurable speed is 5-D
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some of 5D still have nep 2 which DBH can't do anything against it
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5-D axis temporal travel is more of an addition to there Immeasurable speed not an affect to there specific value.
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So 5-D immeasurable speed
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No baseline Immeasurable speed, but with a 5-D temporal "range" (not really range, but they can travel to such places with there speed)
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I'm fairly certain the wiki would just treat what DBH does as 5-D immeasurable speed
The question should be asked. Who's gonna do it?
The question should be asked. Who's gonna do it?
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You can go ask the question then because I'm pretty It's just "baseline Immeasurable", with their speed giving them the ability to travel 5-D temporal "infinite" Multiverses.
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