All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

[CryoTheMayo]

I could be wrong, but apparently the "forcing yourself into the future" stuff was a mistranslation. Idk tho

Not finding anything on this. I would appreciate it if someone could get a translator to take a look at the scene and verify.

 

[TiltedFN]

Not finding anything on this. I would appreciate it if someone could get a translator to take a look at the scene and verify.

It said predicting when the episode updated, could be wrong though, if it is true that it said Goku is forcing himself to the future. That's a blatant immeasurable speed feat.

 

[Omegabronic]

It's still crazy how goku is able to literally predict hit while he's moving into the future. I feel like overlook that, how does it even work? Goku reacts to hit while he's moving through time??

Immeasurable speed feat

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

I don't see how it's anything other than that tbh, outlier, but still. The whole concept of predict someone like hit makes no sense unless you yourself attacks through time.

I mean, going by VSBW logic, it can't truly be immeasurable.

Kaio-Ken x10 is a 10x amp in all, including speed. If Kaio-Ken x10 is immeasurable, then by said logic Goku Blue would also be immeasurable... yet Goku Blue couldn't perform said feat.

Anyway, it doesn't matter since afaik that's exclusive from dub

 

[Killerdrone123]

I mean, going by VSBW logic, it can't truly be immeasurable.

Kaio-Ken x10 is a 10x amp in all, including speed. If Kaio-Ken x10 is immeasurable, then by said logic Goku Blue would also be immeasurable... yet Goku Blue couldn't perform said feat.

Anyway, it doesn't matter since afaik that's exclusive from dub

By that logic we should downscale every one in canon dbz to low multi cause the multiplier wont be infinite

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

That's one of the reasons why I'm against SSG being a fixed multiplier tbh

 

[Killerdrone123]

Anyway, it doesn't matter since afaik that's exclusive from dub

It is in sub to

 

[Nierre]

For some absurd reason, despite the plethora of anime references, anime only events and characters and even events that follow the anime route and ignore the manga one, this site doesn't consider the anime canon to super

Why is that? That's dumb

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I mean, going by VSBW logic, it can't truly be immeasurable.

Kaio-Ken x10 is a 10x amp in all, including speed. If Kaio-Ken x10 is immeasurable, then by said logic Goku Blue would also be immeasurable... yet Goku Blue couldn't perform said feat.

Anyway, it doesn't matter since afaik that's exclusive from dub

Vsbttles just being herself lol

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I highly doubt any of you can achieve immeasurable speed for Goku, I bet you will invent everything to deny this, as hyperbole, translation error, if they had even at the immeasurable speed It didn't take long for them to finish a fight, it would be practically instantaneous, besides them saying that DB is too simple to have things like this (I have to admit these things have been said hundreds of times )

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Ain't it already accepted as Immeasurable? It's just considered an outlier

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Ain't it already accepted as Immeasurable? It's just considered an outlier

Did you see ? This only happens because it's DB, let it be another verse, would be at that speed at the same time, there are so many proofs, but we can never use anything.

 

[TiltedFN]

Ain't it already accepted as Immeasurable? It's just considered an outlier

i dont know about that

 

[Killerdrone123]

Did you see ? This only happens because it's DB, let it be another verse, would be at that speed at the same time, there are so many proofs, but we can never use anything.

Can I know what other proofs do we have just curious

 

[Omegabronic]

Ain't it already accepted as Immeasurable? It's just considered an outlier

Currently it is treated as time stop reaistance

 

[Huesito88]

Ain't it already accepted as Immeasurable? It's just considered an outlier

If it was then I'm not sure why we still have some resistance added on.

 

[Omegabronic]

Did you see ? This only happens because it's DB, let it be another verse, would be at that speed at the same time, there are so many proofs, but we can never use anything.

Any examples?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Jeez, if only there was a reli

安静にしておれと言っとるんじゃ！界王拳も そうじゃが—おぬし なんでもこの間の格闘試合で—何秒か先を読んでおったそうじゃなあ…

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"That's why I'm telling you to rest! Your Kaio-ken, too. In that tournament match the other night, you were reading a few seconds ahead."

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Can I know what other proofs do we have just curious

The ensuing bouts were filled to the brim with exciting twists and turns, including a Saiyan vs Saiyan showdown and a disqualification over the use of a prohibited weapon, until Universe 6 was down to their final contender: the assassin Hit! Skillfully utilizing his Time Skip ability that allows him to jump 0.1 seconds into the future, Hit fought an incredible back-and-forth battle against Goku. In the end, however, Hit decided to throw in the towel for reasons of his own and put their duel on ice for the time being.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Currently it is treated as time stop reaistance

Think it was a compromise or something, that's just how I remember the thread

 

[TiltedFN]

Jeez, if only there was a reli

which still makes no sense when hit is time skipping, this is like saying hit time skips behind goku, doesn't hit him WHILE he's in he time skip, reappears, then gets hit via prediction by goku.

 

[Killerdrone123]

I thought you are going to show some examples of immeasurable speed outside of u7 vs u6 tournament arc anyway thanks for the scan

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

 

[Padaruyos]

Highest speed you can get for Canon DB is Infinite if the macrocosm has infinite sized universes.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I just think Hitto should have a page explaining Hit's abilities, I know it has more than three inhabitants, time stop, time cage ( It can slow down users with its manipulation), and the time jump, where it moves a few seconds into the future.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

which still makes no sense when hit is time skipping, this is like saying hit time skips behind goku, doesn't hit him WHILE he's in he time skip, reappears, then gets hit via prediction by goku.

Goku predicts Hit's next movements > Hit uses Time-Skip to perform next movement > Goku counters Hit within the next 0.1 seconds. (2:30) is very explicit; remember, Hit is skipping forward in time, he is not erasing time for opponents.

 

[TiltedFN]

Goku predicts Hit's next movements > Hit uses Time-Skip to perform next movement > Goku counters Hit within the next 0.1 seconds. (2:30) is very explicit.

The thing is, goku shouldn't be able to do that, if hit is striking goku while in time skip, shouldn't he already see the motion of goku's next attack?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Idk Goku is just him

 

[Nullflowerblush]

I'm, like, 99% Hit only strikes after the Time-Skip, and the only time he was able to hit an opponent while they were frozen is when he froze time.

 

[Vietthai96]

iirc, isn't Goku directly said he predicts Hit's attack where it would land, rather than when Hit is in the middle of his time-skip??

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

The Immeasurable feat is him moving while Hit is skipping through time, not him blocking attacks after Hit does so

 

[TiltedFN]

I'm, like, 99% Hit only strikes after the Time-Skip, and the only time he was able to hit an opponent while they were frozen is when he froze time.

thats not true, he literally hits goku while time skipping what?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

thats not true, he literally hits goku while time skipping what?

When is this?

 

[TiltedFN]

When is this?

Here

 

[Killerdrone123]

Highest speed you can get for Canon DB is Infinite if the macrocosm has infinite sized universes.

Omnipresent zamasu says hi

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Here

Oh, then idk.

This was after Hit used Pure Progress to extend Time-Skip from 0.1 seconds to 0.5 seconds, though. Goku was unable to predict that. Or, maybe Hit landed strikes in Time-Skip. Idk.

 

[Killerdrone123]

iirc, isn't Goku directly said he predicts Hit's attack where it would land, rather than when Hit is in the middle of his time-skip??

he was doing the guessing and predicting game when he was in ssj blue after he used kaioken he started countering and intercepting hit head on

 

[StekFence]

It's still crazy how goku is able to literally predict hit while he's moving into the future. I feel like overlook that, how does it even work? Goku reacts to hit while he's moving through time??

I guess that since he already knew that hit was gonna reappear somewhere, it wasnt that hard to predict where for him

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Wouldn't that help a little more?

A technique where the user stops time for around one-tenth of a second and unleashes high-speed attacks in the interim.

 

[TiltedFN]

I guess that since he already knew that hit was gonna reappear somewhere, it wasnt that hard to predict where for him

Idk, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me at least how you can predict that sort of thing, since the time user sees you as frozen anyway. It's weird.