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JJK AP Downgrade

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KingTempest said:
Alright
So it scales to him later
What about the scaling for the earlier tier characters
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  • Cursed Womb Arc Nobara would be 9-A for taking out numerous Cursed Spirits and Fushiguro scales above her as a Grade 2 sorcerer
  • Yuji's Introduction and Cursed Womb Arc keys should be merged since he doesn't learn to use Cursed Energy until after the CW Arc so there shouldn't be any statistic changes. He would keep the 8-C rating
  • The first Finger Bearer at the detention centre as a Special Grade should scale above Mechamaru's Ultimate Canon, especially since Panda was able to tank it, which would make it at least 8-B
  • 2 Finger Sukuna fodderised the Finger Bearer so he should be "At least 8-B, Varies with Cleave, higher in Domain"
  • 3 Finger Sukuna scales below Jogo
  • Nanami outside of Overtime would be 250.1 to 281.4 tons so Vs Mahito Arc Mahito should be 8-A and Yuji scales to Mahito so he'd be 8-A too
  • The Kyoto Goodwill Event keys should include the Death Painting Arc too
  • The second Finger Bearer scales above the first one
  • Megumi's Goodwill Event/Death Painting key would downscale by x1.2 from being able to harm the second Finger Bearer in his Domain, plus Divine Dog Totality could tear a chunk out of Hanami's arm (the arm was injured from taking a hit from Playful Cloud and this was before well before Hanami was fighting seriously)
  • Maki would scale to Megumi and be 8-A with Playful Cloud for harming Hanami
  • Eso and Kechizu scale to Yuji (8-A; plus Choso says that they wouldn't lose to the Finger Bearer)
  • Death Painting Arc Nobara scales to Eso and Kechizu (8-A)
Experiencing Black Flash should also amp the user permanently by x1.2 (Gojo notes how much stronger Yuji got after working with Todo which was due to him experiencing Black Flash and he landed it 5 times, the story also acknowledges Yuji's growth, so the potential boost is talking about power and is not temporary)
 
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SunDaGamer said:
  • Cursed Womb Arc Nobara would be 9-A for taking out numerous Cursed Spirits and Fushiguro scales above her as a Grade 2 sorcerer
  • Yuji's Introduction and Cursed Womb Arc keys should be merged since he doesn't learn to use Cursed Energy until after the CW Arc so there shouldn't be any statistic changes. He would keep the 8-C rating
  • The first Finger Bearer at the detention centre as a Special Grade should scale above Mechamaru's Ultimate Canon, especially since Panda was able to tank it, which would make it at least 8-B
  • 2 Finger Sukuna fodderised the Finger Bearer so he should be "At least 8-B, Varies with Cleave, higher in Domain"
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Good
SunDaGamer said:
  • Nanami outside of Overtime would be 250 tons so Vs Mahito Arc Mahito should be 8-A and Yuji scales to Mahito so he'd be 8-A too
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Should be the value of 80% to 90%.
His Overtime weirdly puts him up to 120% with his vow, so 375.2 tons would be at most 120% as it's his slightly strengthened overtime attack
80% would be 250.1 tons, 90% would be 281.4 tons
So varying values pretty much, but don't put varies
SunDaGamer said:
  • The Kyoto Goodwill Event keys should include the Death Painting Arc too
  • The second Finger Bearer scales above the first one
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Looks good
SunDaGamer said:
  • Megumi's Goodwill Event/Death Painting key would downscale by x1.2 from being able to harm the second Finger Bearer in his Domain, plus Divine Dog Totality could tear a chunk out of Hanami's arm (the arm was injured from taking a hit from Playful Cloud and this was before well before Hanami was fighting seriously)
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I forgot the source of 1.2x, elaborate
SunDaGamer said:
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Depends on the user ≠ strength measurement being scaled directly to the user.
It has no technique but it still has cursed energy.
Hanami was tanking every attack she used prior to using playful cloud. She doesn't scale to Hanami regularly without Playful Cloud
SunDaGamer said:
  • Eso and Kechizu scale to Yuji (8-A)
  • Death Painting Arc Nobara scales to Eso and Kechizu (8-A)
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Good
SunDaGamer said:
Experiencing Black Flash should also amp the user permanently by x1.2 (Gojo notes how much stronger Yuji got after working with Todo which was due to him experiencing Black Flash
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It's because of Yuji's training with Todo prior to Black Flash + the feeling of experiencing black flash. It's not all because of black flash
 
KingTempest said:
I forgot the source of 1.2x, elaborate
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When Megumi uses CSG against Reggie

KingTempest said:
Depends on the user ≠ strength measurement being scaled directly to the user.
It has no technique but it still has cursed energy.
Hanami was tanking every attack she used prior to using playful cloud. She doesn't scale to Hanami regularly without Playful Cloud
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She'd probably scale to Megumi then and only be 8-A with Playful Cloud

KingTempest said:
It's because of Yuji's training with Todo prior to Black Flash + the feeling of experiencing black flash. It's not all because of black flash
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Todo tells Yuji that his Divergent Fist is holding him back and tells him that he'd stay weak with it because his training was building up to Yuji landing a Black Flash. He then tells Yuji that he is on another level than he was before landing Black Flash. When Mahito lands Black Flash for his first time, his potential is brought out to 120% which is the same as Yuji and Todo (both of whom had already experienced Black Flash)
 
SunDaGamer said:
When Megumi uses CSG against Reggie
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This potential shit is stupid
SunDaGamer said:
She'd probably scale to Megumi then and only be 8-A with Playful Cloud
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Yup
SunDaGamer said:
Todo tells Yuji that his Divergent Fist is holding him back and tells him that he'd stay weak with it because his training was building up to Yuji landing a Black Flash. He then tells Yuji that he is on another level than he was before landing Black Flash. When Mahito lands Black Flash for his first time, his potential is brought out to 120% which is the same as Yuji and Todo (both of whom had already experienced Black Flash)
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Fine
 
KingTempest said:
This potential shit is stupid
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Whenever they mention an increase in 'potential' it seems to be talking about their ability to use Jujutsu which would be a power increase, although idk if the Japanese script matches with the 'potential' boost that Mahito, Todo and Yuji had
 
Duedate8898 said:
Nothing. Sukuna in 15 finger form would've been hurt by it, but by what degree for scaling is unknown so its in its Maximum Meteor is alone in its scaling at the moment.
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So he has no scaling to Maximum Meteor. Hilariously upsetting.

Anyways

@LIFE_OF_KING your Hanami calc needs to get slightly downgraded.
All that mass didn't move at uniform speed because of the logic of tree growth. For the KE of that it needs to be 1/4th instead of 1/2
 
Use Nanami calc (375.2 tons) -> Mahito strong as Nanami in OT (Shibuya) -> ISB is a 3x amp -> That gets us to 1125.6 tons for ISB -> All High Tiers would one tap ISB (Yuta, Ryu, Kashimo, Uro etc) -> High tiers Low 7-C.
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OP needs to be updated, it'd be:
Overtime Nanami [375.2 tons] = Mahito (Shibuya Arc) x1.2< Mahito (Post-Black Flash) [450.24 Tons] 2x< ISBDK Mahito [900.48 tons] < High Tier Culling Game characters (Low 7-C)

We also have 2 calcs of Sukuna's fire arrow accepted:
 
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Would adding the destruction of the buildings that were caught in the range of his fire attack not make any noticeable difference in the value?
 
Is there a logistical issues as to why we wouldn't want to try and calc that or just a case of no one trying it at the moment?
 
Duedate8898 said:
Would adding the destruction of the buildings that were caught in the range of his fire attack not make any noticeable difference in the value?
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Unless the buildings contain something hotter than vaporizing steel, then i dont think theres gonna be a notable difference in temperature.

Edit: It would make it much higher? @KingTempest. You mean like adding the energy needed unto the destruction of buildings unto the heat energy generated?
 
Arnoldstone18 said:
Unless the buildings contain something hotter than vaporizing steel, then i dont think theres gonna be a notable difference in temperature.

Edit: It would make it much higher? @KingTempest. You mean like adding the energy needed unto the destruction of buildings unto the heat energy generated?
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Yeah

Dude vaporized a shit ton of buildings. That would be a lot

Say something like 2% of that volume was vaporized stone or steel or w/e to account for empty space or glass or something. It'd multiply what you got tenfold
 
KingTempest said:
Yeah

Dude vaporized a shit ton of buildings. That would be a lot

Say something like 2% of that volume was vaporized stone or steel or w/e to account for empty space or glass or something. It'd multiply what you got tenfold
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Not doubting this happend but isent it kinda arbitrary to say that a certain amount was vaporized unless we have visuals of the damage?
Edit: nvm
 
The visuals of the damage is the fact that none of it remains in the area sukuna destroyed I would assume
 
Stryker861 said:
Damn that is a shit ton
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Pillar's high so you need to assume a really low percent. Like half for the amount that was actually affected in that ginormous pillar, then 20% for building hollowness then even more for the distance inbetween buildings, then more for what's glass and what's actually damageable, then more cause the floors aren't super big

1% is a solid lowball of the damaged/vaporized stone
 
I'm not against accounting for possible vaporization of buildings since the crater is left completely empty. However, I also argued earlier that the blast actually just BLEW all the debris away since the cloud expanding out from the attack seems to carry rubble in it. So it's possible you could argue KE. And given the blast travels at like 140 m/s and we're talking about high-rise/skyscrapers worth of mass, it'd prolly net somethin good too. I'll leave it up to ya'll if you'd wanna do KE or vaporisation instead tho.
 
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