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Pre-timeskip Luffy 6-C and FTL upgrade

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He wanted to make him strong, he knew Luffy got a rubber fruit from "Experience"(IE no matter how hard he punched Luffy Luffy didn't take damage), so he had to use Haki.

If you want to argue against this, argue against the big ass Physiology blog made for Liffy's rubber self.

Yes... Moria's attack was blunt force.
Exacly what i said because Moria's attack is blunt force it doesnt scale to luffy
 
Never said it was... But him needing to use haki is proof that he's normal punches wasn't going to hurt luffy
frank > garp???!
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In the end it doesnt matter even if Luffy takes damage he takes a reduced amount of it by an unknown factor it could be anything like him taking only 10% of the damage or 0,000000000001% any of those dont guaranteee him the same tier as the attack he recived
 
Also dodging lightspeed attacks doesnt make him FTL speed only gives him SoL reaction speed if you want to have FTL you need a calc for it.
While the 6-C scaling is clearly not right, is there some validity to the speed scaling? IIRC Kuma does repel air at light speed, so in the case of Tsuppari Pad Ho, Zoro is weaving through LS projectiles. Is there a good way to go about a calc for that?
 
While the 6-C scaling is clearly not right, is there some validity to the speed scaling? IIRC Kuma does repel air at light speed, so in the case of Tsuppari Pad Ho, Zoro is weaving through LS projectiles. Is there a good way to go about a calc for that?
I think the argument used to reject this was that repealing air at lightspeed doesnt mean the shockwave will actually be lightspeed.
Also about the calc it will be hard maybe try the anime because you still need to calc the distance from Zoro to kuma and calc how uch Zoro moved which isnt clear from the manga
 
The center island itself has a diameter of only like 8x the Sunny's length if you use the above pic.
 
I think the argument used to reject this was that repealing air at lightspeed doesnt mean the shockwave will actually be lightspeed.
Also about the calc it will be hard maybe try the anime because you still need to calc the distance from Zoro to kuma and calc how uch Zoro moved which isnt clear from the manga
Well, you’d only need to look at the distance between each pad. Zoro doesn’t have Kenbunshoku at this point, so he can’t predict the path of the pads. His reaction to the very first pad would be calc’ed off the distance between him and Kuma; for each successive pad the distance is from the pad he just dodged to the one he’s about to dodge.

But if the LS projectile itself is rejected it’s a moot point.
 
Well, you’d only need to look at the distance between each pad. Zoro doesn’t have Kenbunshoku at this point, so he can’t predict the path of the pads. His reaction to the very first pad would be calc’ed off the distance between him and Kuma; for each successive pad the distance is from the pad he just dodged to the one he’s about to dodge.

But if the LS projectile itself is rejected it’s a moot point.
The manga seems to imply that multiple air cannons were sent in succession so Zorro was actually dodging multiple of them at the same time so using the movement between "pads" might be a mistake
 
While the 6-C scaling is clearly not right, is there some validity to the speed scaling? IIRC Kuma does repel air at light speed, so in the case of Tsuppari Pad Ho, Zoro is weaving through LS projectiles. Is there a good way to go about a calc for that?
I think its quite a difficult thing to calc depending on how you do it, but talking about calculations and how to calculate isn't for this thread, this thread is for implementing stuff for profiles/pages
 
That is pretty small the calc is using 1.6Km thats why its city level if they used 327m it would go much smaller
I'm using the image he showed that he thought was island sized

And I proved that it wasn't with his own image, not trying to say this is the size of thriller bark since the image is literally not even from the manga
 
First of all these ****** images I can barely scroll

Don't know if this was done before but here we go :
  • Luffy should scales to Enel who did this
Luffy does not scale to Raigo.
Raigo is a technique made with Enel's powers strengthened dozens of times over then compressed into a single attack.
  • Later in the series we see characters like Moria being able to destroy an island in a single hit :
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And yet a weakened base Luffy survived his attacks :
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He did not destroy the island in a single hit.
He cracked it in half with a single hit.
That was calced to Small City level.

We work on a system of calculations and energy
Okay this is for 6-C pre-timeskipe Luffy and now for speed :

  • Kuma can shoot Air Pads that travels at LS speed :

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Bad translation
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The stuff he shoots isn't repelled at the SOL, or rather it's not yet accepted to
Idky you sent Niji. He vastly outscales everybody Pre Timeskip.
Niji said Post Timeskip Sanji was slow.
Same Sanji who blitzed the Pacifista.
Same Pacifista who kept up with everybody pre timeskip.
And yet Zoro (who scales below Luffy) was able to dodge them all :

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You don't need to be faster than something to dodge it.

We can even look at his path. He didn't go and duck everything, he just moved around a bunch at once.
And this would definitely scales to post time skip Luffy since casually dodged one of those beams and even said that they were slow :
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Those feats were calced to both Relativistic and Sub-Relativistic
AKA those feats are ass
My suggestions :

  • Pre time skip base Luffy starting from Skypiea arc and above should get a 6-C and FTL rating
We will not scale the dude who struggled with lightning and got blitzed by light to FTL
We will also not scale someone to 6-C for cracking an island in half.
That feat is ass
  • Base form post time skip Luffy should also scales massively above pre time skip Luff in both AP and speed
He does. He doesn't scale to FTL
 
First of all these ****** images I can barely scroll


Luffy does not scale to Raigo.
Raigo is a technique made with Enel's powers strengthened dozens of times over then compressed into a single attack.

He did not destroy the island in a single hit.
He cracked it in half with a single hit.
That was calced to Small City level.

We work on a system of calculations and energy

Bad translation
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The stuff he shoots isn't repelled at the SOL, or rather it's not yet accepted to

Idky you sent Niji. He vastly outscales everybody Pre Timeskip.
Niji said Post Timeskip Sanji was slow.
Same Sanji who blitzed the Pacifista.
Same Pacifista who kept up with everybody pre timeskip.

You don't need to be faster than something to dodge it.

We can even look at his path. He didn't go and duck everything, he just moved around a bunch at once.

Those feats were calced to both Relativistic and Sub-Relativistic
AKA those feats are ass

We will not scale the dude who struggled with lightning and got blitzed by light to FTL
We will also not scale someone to 6-C for cracking an island in half.
That feat is ass

He does. He doesn't scale to FTL
I sincerily thought you said not to close because you wanted to have this accepted but you are basically rejecting everything so this is weird.
 
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