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The Sansational showdown, finally

I will say, a good potential wincon for Sans that he can just somehow wait it out until Goku gets really tired from using MUI since that is his weakness.

But Goku will finish the job first however I feel. I vote for Goku.
 
noninho said:
Easier wincon for sans:
Gets Goku's SOUL blue>Danmaku to distract him>throws his SOUL in the danmaku

I work earlier tomorrow, i really should be sleeping
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the problem you are ignoring is that in this form goku is mostly about dodging, with the instictive reactions he can keep up with any surprise attack and his analytical prediction would allow him to keep up with most skeleton attacks.

adding to that it has ki attacks that can increase the range so it can hit sans more easily.. including land mines that will prevent it from standing in one place.. of course also adding that even a blast of air could be potentially deadly.
 
Undylan said:
I will say, a good potential wincon for Sans that he can just somehow wait it out until Goku gets really tired from using MUI since that is his weakness.

But Goku will finish the job first however I feel. I vote for Goku.
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I agree with this... MUI could potentially get tired and sans would have an easy victory....

of course if it wasn't for the fact that goku himself has a huge amount of ki projectiles that can increase his range to hit sans more easily... even with the tp.
 
This version of Goku would legit try to end the fight faster since he knows he is low on time, so I am not sure how Sans is going to deal with this. Should've used some other version instead of the one that actually tries to end the fight sooner.
Nothing stopping him from TP behind Sans and hitting him from the ba-
Yeah voting Goku
 
This is a stomp. Goku in this key has insane dodging skill and if someone tries to say this is fair I am cutting my eyes out. Close this if you want to remake it use a weaker version or goku just dodges everything and wins.

Edit it to a weaker form then it will be an actual match.
 
TUHTPeaSkull12 said:
since this is MUI, it has instinctive reactions which are very useful, since they will allow any attack that in comus cases hit goku to have a much lower chance, plus goku is extremely skilled I see this, especially since in this form it is extremely common for him to dodge... "but he has never seen a danmaku like sans!"... true but he has dodged huge ki blasts that have a huge attack range.
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But both arguments are applicable to sans too, i talked about it earlier, why they have the exact same speed (and it includes Instinctive Action) and why they would dodge the hell outta everything


TUHTPeaSkull12 said:
any move is a one-shot.. and of course goku can throw huge amounts while dodging sans' attacks.. while i don't think he will destroy the bones, he will overwhelm the skeleton, especially since goku is not stupid, if he sees that sans is dodging too much, he can put ki mines to take the skeleton by surprise.
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But sans is also not stupid, and via TPing, genius int, and if you push it this far, also has instinctive reactions!


TUHTPeaSkull12 said:
although his LS is useless against sans' telekinesis, it's important to know that he doesn't stop the person and attack with his bones, he throws his opponent to take them with a bone attack, which with the MUI is pretty bad because the moment goku gets free he can perfectly dodge it... because instinctive reactions lol.
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Ok, for what i think will be 2/100 time i'll say that here: sans' tk is not useless since he uses it on Goku's SOUL which cant be immune to it.
No he doesn't throw any opponent except frisk who has an special ability to tank SOUL damage as regular damage.
Again, goku and sans have the exact same speed, ive talked about it earlier!!
TUHTPeaSkull12 said:
sans doesn't kill instantly with his attacks... yes he is fast but not instinctive.. and he will still have to tag sans' body to damage his soul... which is extremely complicated when we have an absurdly skilled guy who has dodged danmaku attacks before... not that complex but he has some experience in it.
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But they kill PRETTY fast and so far goku cannot hit him before he does that.
He is instinctive, talked about it earlier.
Well, if he dodges the danmaku, then sans can also tp and would take no time to throw Goku's SOUL on the laser, which kills it.

TUHTPeaSkull12 said:
sans' time stop is useless, which means that goku can easily predict the preparation of his attacks.

Unlike cell or black... goku has more factors to allow him to win this fight.

an analytical prediction, instinctive reactions that will allow him to survive long enough, large amounts of ki with an absurd aoe, ki land mines.. and of course a single breath and sans would die lol.
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Yes it is, but ive already talked about how would sans do it without ts.
He has other ones, but like sans, they're surpassed and People dont see it until i say like 5 times lul
Sans has info analysis and genius int besides also having instinctive reactions. All you say here is applicable to him too lol
 
Undylan said:
I will say, a good potential wincon for Sans that he can just somehow wait it out until Goku gets really tired from using MUI since that is his weakness.

But Goku will finish the job first however I feel. I vote for Goku.
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Tell me how, so far nobody could
 
noninho said:
But both arguments are applicable to sans too, i talked about it earlier, why they have the exact same speed (and it includes Instinctive Action) and why they would dodge the hell outta everything



But sans is also not stupid, and via TPing, genius int, and if you push it this far, also has instinctive reactions!



Ok, for what i think will be 2/100 time i'll say that here: sans' tk is not useless since he uses it on Goku's SOUL which cant be immune to it.
No he doesn't throw any opponent except frisk who has an special ability to tank SOUL damage as regular damage.
Again, goku and sans have the exact same speed, ive talked about it earlier!!

But they kill PRETTY fast and so far goku cannot hit him before he does that.
He is instinctive, talked about it earlier.
Well, if he dodges the danmaku, then sans can also tp and would take no time to throw Goku's SOUL on the laser, which kills it.


Yes it is, but ive already talked about how would sans do it without ts.
He has other ones, but like sans, they're surpassed and People dont see it until i say like 5 times lul
Sans has info analysis and genius int besides also having instinctive reactions. All you say here is applicable to him too lol
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Please. This is not a fair fight goku in this key just outskills and dodges everything either change the form or its an extremely unfair stomp.
 
TUHTPeaSkull12 said:
I agree with this... MUI could potentially get tired and sans would have an easy victory....

of course if it wasn't for the fact that goku himself has a huge amount of ki projectiles that can increase his range to hit sans more easily... even with the tp.
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But sans also has instinctive reactions (for the 4th time) +faster reaction speed +tp how he would get hit before sans ***** his SOUL?
 
noninho said:
But sans also has instinctive reactions (for the 4th time) +faster reaction speed +tp how he would get hit before sans ***** his SOUL?
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Goku will just dodge all of the danmaku eyes closed. This is a one sided fight for goku
 
Shubham_Sonsurkar said:
This version of Goku would legit try to end the fight faster since he knows he is low on time, so I am not sure how Sans is going to deal with this. Should've used some other version instead of the one that actually tries to end the fight sooner.
Nothing stopping him from TP behind Sans and hitting him from the ba-
Yeah voting Goku
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Sans would try to end this fast since he knows he need no almost no time to kill him
Whats stopping that to happen is sans' already doing the same
 
noninho said:
Sans would try to end this fast since he knows he need no almost no time to kill him
Whats stopping that to happen is sans' already doing the same
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I am tired. This is onesided and sans only wincon is to wait out Goku which is not IC and will not happen. Its a stomp
 
Nobody could stop my arguments but i limited it anyway, another day i'll make this thread
 
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