- 42,649
- 36,913
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Crocodile tries to skewer another main protagonist(Ali vs Crocodile)
- Thread starter DaReaperMan
- Start date
- 11,413
- 2,548
Which version of Ali?
- 42,649
- 36,913
- Thread starter
- #3
Whichever is fair, just latest for now cause this IS Crocodile
- 11,413
- 2,548
Ali starts off with damage boosted tops that can emit an electrical shockwave mid-flight.
- 42,649
- 36,913
- Thread starter
- #5
Crocodile tends to spam his Intangibility and is more then willing to use his other haxes and shit.
- 42,649
- 36,913
- Thread starter
- #6
Also, Crocodile can't use his powers when he's wet.
Whether this is water, blood, sweat, ****, or whatever else, covering him with it eliminates the majority of his powers and leaves him pure physical
Whether this is water, blood, sweat, ****, or whatever else, covering him with it eliminates the majority of his powers and leaves him pure physical
- 11,413
- 2,548
Sand would still be shook by shockwaves and his other haxes require close contact touching.
Well, Ali wouldn't know that but since SBA assumes this takes place in a city. It's very likely one particle of sand that his body is composed of would accidentally fall on water whether in the sewer, drains or random water holding objects.
- 42,649
- 36,913
- Thread starter
- #8
Low-high regen is pretty nutty for, ya know, dealing with a shockwave. Think of Crocodile as a Sandman except he doesn't have a brain grain, can't grow to the size of a mountain, and is weak to liquid. But he also gets the ability to just recover from damn near anything.
Thats... that's literally nowhere near enough to disable Crocodile(also wouldnt work, he has stellar control of his sandy form.) By wet, I mean you need to cover this man, from **** to top to toe in liquid.
- 11,413
- 2,548
Ali has 6 of these hybrid tops he could very well just spam them over and over again at Croco.
Well, Ali would definitely have a hard time then.
- 42,649
- 36,913
- Thread starter
- #10
At that point Crocodile would likely use some of his pretty nutty AoE or use a more solid attack(like Desert la Spada) OR make more sand for himself with Ground Death so he can be more of a nuisance
What Ali can consider himself lucky with is that there's quite a bit of water in Central park, so if he figures it out, well it's not going to be easy, but it's certainly nice to have a goal other then "beat this dude" when you're on the clock due to lesser stamina
- 42,649
- 36,913
- Thread starter
- #11
I could give them both some prior knowledge of eachother and the fact that the other has prior knowledge too
- 11,413
- 2,548
Sure
Ali would use his electromagnetic forcefield then.
Yep
- 42,649
- 36,913
- Thread starter
- #13
All right, Crocodile knows his tricks, and vice versa with the knowledge they know eachother's tricks, this could definitely get tricky
Which Crocodile could break seeing as he's the one with the AP advantage here, although not a major one
- 11,413
- 2,548
Then Ali would go for the closest water source while spamming his tops.
Not really. A danmaku barrage of someone with higher AP than Ali didn't even break Ali's electromagnetic forcefield.
- 42,649
- 36,913
- Thread starter
- #15
If Ali does that Crocodile just makes a **** ton of sand to basically drown out the water lmfao
That person is objectively unquantifiably stronger, Crocodile is quantifiably stronger, he has AP above that guy and AoE attacks that constantly hit becuase they include such things as grains of sand.
- 11,413
- 2,548
Let me get this straight, so getting covered by water is his weakness but isn't his weakness in sand form?
Upscaling would say otherwise. It still warrants at most a 1.5x increase from the original AP. Basically, Ali would still retain the greater durability for his electromagnetic barriers that uses 4 tops which are superior to his yoyo barriers who already blocked a barrage of danmaku using 2 tops only.
- 42,649
- 36,913
- Thread starter
- #17
It's more like he can make an apsolute **** ton of sand besides his body to then use to drown out the water.
Last I checked you literally cannot get higher AP then someone with a greater calc numbers-wise via upscaling.
- 11,413
- 2,548
Then Ali is basically going to lose without a wincon.
You can, just that the most you'd get is 1.5x and not 2 as explained by the administrators on my last CRT.
- 42,649
- 36,913
- Thread starter
- #19
He could also, you know, figure out a way to MAKE Crocodile get dunked in water, he could break fire hydrants and shit or set something up to break them
And this is applied to versus battles?
- 11,413
- 2,548
Sand would still blot out the fire hydrant and act like a stopper.
Pretty much
- 42,649
- 36,913
- Thread starter
- #21
He can also contest Crocodile on making the sand, IE, seperate him from the ground, if you read his Notable Attacks section this would be a wee more clear
Interesting...
- 11,413
- 2,548
Contest?
- 42,649
- 36,913
- Thread starter
- #23
Take action to stop it
- 11,413
- 2,548
That's never gonna work without massive LS he can't separate him from the ground at all.
- 42,649
- 36,913
- Thread starter
- #25
Which helps since Ali has an LS advantage.(Seriously put your LS/Speed calcs on the verse page)
- 8,997
- 9,718
They're under the same City Block level+ to Town level explosions calc, but ok
- 11,413
- 2,548
Which only works on METALLIC stuff.
- 42,649
- 36,913
- Thread starter
- #28
So he surrounds Crocodile with metal and yeets him, or at least tries to, which forces Crocodile to stop what he's doing
- 42,649
- 36,913
- Thread starter
- #29
Then note there's also an LS calc there too...
- 11,413
- 2,548
He doesn't really do that. The closest thing he did to that is launching a shrapnel danmaku which only works if there is a metallic debris lying around.
- 42,649
- 36,913
- Thread starter
- #31
He's never had a situation where he NEEDS to get the dude off the ground
- 11,413
- 2,548
Nope, best he could do is launch projectiles or completely halt metallic things that were about to punch or slice him. Maybe Croco's hook can be held in place but he still has his other hand give a backhand slap.
- 42,649
- 36,913
- Thread starter
- #33
Oof
Well, that was my hurrah at trying to make a 7-C match with my nigh-complete lack of 7-Cs lol
- 11,413
- 2,548
Maybe the match may be viable if we put them as close to the damn sea as humanly possible.
- 42,649
- 36,913
- Thread starter
- #35
Issue is that gives Crocodile access to an apsolute **** TON of sand due to the beach.
- 11,413
- 2,548
Doesn't have to be a beach. Could be that one cliff that Kratos jumped off to commit suicide which has a sea at the bottom.
- 42,649
- 36,913
- Thread starter
- #37
Crocodile can pretty much fly you know, especially when it comes to a cliff like that.
- 11,413
- 2,548
Without being knocked by the tops?
- 42,649
- 36,913
- Thread starter
- #39
He is sand. Can these tops face-hit sand without it, ya know, doing what it does to every other physical attack basically anyone threw a that form?
- 11,413
- 2,548
The tops still have shockwave generation. Which would disperse a significant portion of his sand body.
