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Zeno has 2C durability via what?
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Alien X vs Zeno
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Reaction speed is not same as normal speed. But regardless we have shown that people like even bulma and zamasu can react to start off existence erasure.
In both case zenooh would be done for.
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I meant the type of erasure where you cease to exist in under a second and all your atoms would disappear.
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Being above anyone else in the verse, which includes Grand Priest and Angels who are 2-C
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That doesn't grant dura fr. It's just him having ee or ap.
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Well it's implied that nobody in the verse can defeat him, and there are characters with 2-C AP
Regardless it doesn't matter, it's on his profile and even if it weren't, Zeno still erases before Alien X could close the distance and one shot him
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His ee speed is not that great, not atleast the start off, characters like bulma to the characters like zamasu shown to be able to react to that.
Mind hax, telekinesis stomp.
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Bulma reacts to everyone, that's not an antifeat
And even if you consider his EE slow, it's still much, much faster than Alien X crossing SBA distance under equalized speed
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I said start off, it's not anti feat. His ee start has shown to be slow and then takes other part of spaces with high speed, just like how friction works somewhat.
SBA? What's that?
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Standard battle assumptions
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And what's crazy is if we go by firestorm calc Alien X was able to move Galaxies in infinite distance with using his hands.
Alien X either Uses telekinesis and then mind Haxes him.
Alien X either Uses telekinesis and then mind Haxes him.
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Don't know how it's necessary but doesn't matter. It's still stomp via reaction speed and mind hax towards start off ee.
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Speed is equalized
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Ok still ee speed won't.
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Also @Maverick_Zero_X is all types of speed are equalised? Reaction speed, ap speed or whatsoover.
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Yeah
"The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc."
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can't Alien X just reverse time? lol
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Doesn't that mean Alien X has infinite attack speed here?Yeah
"The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc."
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Ee still affected all of space and time in a single moment.
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How to reverse time when space and time are no longer there?
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what do you mean?
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Zeno erases everything, space and time included, you can't reverse time when it doesn't exist
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it took him a pretty long time when he erased Zamasu, slow enough for Alien X to react ngl
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I absolutely know Purgy got veins and shit popping out of his neck and forehead talking to these foreign mrks.
Zeno FRA.
Zeno FRA.
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It took him a few seconds to erase the people and their universes in the ToP
And Alien X still has to cross the starting distance to really do anything to Zeno, which isn't happening before Zeno erases, though that might change if Alien X has infinite attack speed here which I'm not sure about
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a few seconds is all alien x needs tbh
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Doesn't matter, as per nature of zeno's ee, it's start is much much slower compared to his speed. Bulma reacted lmao
Zenooh would have to close the gap btw him and alien x for ee to work at a point blink range, alien x can utilise that time to place mind hax.
Alien X won't have to close the gaping here.
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we saw zeno taking forever when he was getting ready to erase zamasu
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A few seconds seems like a lot for characters of this speed, but remember that speed is equalized
The time it takes Zeno to raise his hand slightly is far faster than the time it takes for Alien X to get within mind hax range and wave his hand because speed is equalized
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Alot of flaw there in reasoning.
1- ee's nature is to start with slow speed and takes over other parts with high speed.
2- character speed (all types included) =/= his explosion speed or ee speed or nature whatsoever.
3- gap that zenoh has to close down to alien x is alot greater alien have to cover for his mind hax to work. His range of start is greater>
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Against Zamasu it expanded outwards as a sort of explosion, against ToP people and universes it just erased them without expanding
All types of speed are reduced by the same amount per speed equalization
Zeno doesn't need to move, he's shown low-multiversal range with his EE, Alien X has shown maybe twenty feet of range with his mind hax...so he's the one that needs to get closer to Zeno here.
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Why does it matters? I said start off is slower, is there any proof that it's start off in the top was faster?
Also counter for coming counter (if possibly you did), why we would assume that he will use it in offense? Considering he never used it, but the way he used it against Zamasu will be taken into account.
Character speed, attack speed all are equalised not ee speed it's not depends on zeno speed because.
If zeno won't close the gap then it's absolute stomp with mind hax because zeno ee start off is slower, so either he go to point blank range for it to work or mind hax.
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I'm not sure what you mean by this, how does it start off slower? It takes a few seconds to work sure. He erased entire universes and characters with it, how is that not offensive? It's literally his only move.
The EE is an attack...
Zeno doesn't need to close the gap to erase, Alien X does to mind control, Alien X is getting erased before he can close the gap and mind control
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Look at infinite zamasu arc, his start off was literally slower that when Goku, bulma and other saw it coming they just get away. It doesn't matter how it's expanded if start off is slower
Same thing I said above.
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