Killer vs X Drake

[Eseseso]

Killer vs X Drake

In-character (although they both want to beat the other one so I guess bloodlusted), in the Onigashima live hall, and they start 20m away.

Killer has 760 teraton AP and 1.032 petaton durability

Drake has 760 teraton AP and durability in Base, but his Zoan form scales well above 760 teratons and has 1.032 petaton durability.

Killer: 7 (@KingTempest, @Eseseso, @Eminiteable, @Darkvie123, @WrongIdea21, @Tetsucabrah, @14405User)

X Drake: 0

Incon: 0

 

[WrongIdea21]

Sonic Schyte goes brrr..

 

[Darkvie123]

How X Drake is surviving Sonic Scythe?

 

[Eseseso]

Sonic Schyte goes brrr..

How X Drake is surviving Sonic Scythe?

Well, Base Drake and Killer both scale to the same people in terms of speed (Killer matched Zoro and deflected Kaido's Kaifu while Base Drake matched Zoro and reacted to an angry Yamato), so Hybrid Drake should be faster than Killer to at least some extent.

 

[Darkvie123]

this vs rly is dead no one’s interested on it

 

[Eseseso]

this vs rly is dead no one’s interested on it

Eh it's 2 minor OP characters so I'm not too surprised.

 

[Eseseso]

I'm voting for Killer.

Yes Hybrid Drake is faster but Killer will probably kill him before Drake kills him since both have 1 petaton durability at their best so their raw AP levels aren't enough for quick kills and Killer has sonic dura negation.

 

[Darkvie123]

I'm voting for Killer.

Yes Hybrid Drake is faster but Killer will probably kill him before Drake kills him since both have 1 petaton durability at their best so their raw AP levels aren't enough for quick kills and Killer has sonic dura negation.

Agree


Tell Drake bot getting one tapped from CP0 Blue Scarf Agent ong

 

[Eseseso]

Agree


Tell Drake bot getting one tapped from CP0 Blue Scarf Agent ong

Eh, Drake fought CP0 offscreen for a good while and the CP0 leader complimented him.

That said, he still definitely got overpowered.

 

[Darkvie123]

Eh, Drake fought CP0 offscreen for a good while and the CP0 leader complimented him.

That said, he still definitely got overpowered.

i mean bro stabbed him from behind and still got folded

Shows how skilled that Blue Scarf who took Kaidos attack like a man is

 

[Darkvie123]

Bump

 

[Darkvie123]

Im bumping this because Killer or X Drake dont have any wins or loses in their profiles until now so it would be good if more people gave more input in this Mid Tiers fight of OP

 

[Eminiteable]

Voting Killer since has has better AP and durability negation

 

[Eseseso]

Voting Killer since has has better AP and durability negation

Ap wise is tricky.

Let's look:

Base Drake = 760 teratons (via matching base Zoro, blocking an attack from an angry base yamato albeit he was still pushed back a lot, and was implied to have fought Apoo in base for at least part of their fight).

Base Drake << Zoan/Hybrid Drake (He managed to do damage to the CP0 leader, who should be >= the other masked agents were were only slightly harmed by Kazenbo, which is 1.032 petatons, but he needed piercing damage and was overpowered in the end)

Killer = Base Zoro = 760 teratons

Killer > Kiku (via deflecting Kaifus, supported by Kin'emon calling him mighty)

But yeah dura neg ftw, since Hybrid Drake's superior speed is useless since both of them have durability of 1.032 petatons.

 

[Eminiteable]

Base Drake = 760 teratons (via matching base Zoro, blocking an attack from an angry base yamato albeit he was still pushed back a lot, and was implied to have fought Apoo in base for at least part of their fight).

He matched Nitoryu Zoro who Killer without his punishers was able to do. Killer with his punishers is far stronger, was able to stun base Kaidou and cause him pain and could deflect two tatsumaki kaifu's when as you say one regular kaifu completely tore through Kiku and her sword.

 

[Eseseso]

He matched Nitoryu Zoro who Killer without his punishers was able to do. Killer with his punishers is far stronger, was able to stun base Kaidou and cause him pain and could deflect two tatsumaki kaifu's when as you say one regular kaifu completely tore through Kiku and her sword.

Fair point, although the Yamato stuff still puts Base Drake at 760 teratons, so that combined with his Zoan amps means that his hybrid form and such should probably be >= to Killer by a small extent, not that it matters.

 

[Eseseso]

bump

 

[Darkvie123]

Killer FRA

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Killer FRA

 

[Darkvie123]

2 more votes and its Grace

 

[Eseseso]

Bump

 

[Eseseso]

BUMP

 

[Eseseso]

Just a recap of their advantages:

Drake:
1. >= AP in Zoan/Hybrid forms
2. Faster in Hybrid Forms


Killer:
1. Sonic Scythes

 

[Eminiteable]

Killer has greater AP than Hybrid Drake, Drake shouldn't be faster in his hybrid state considering Apoo kept up with him the same regardless of base or hybrid being used.

 

[Eseseso]

Killer has greater AP than Hybrid Drake, Drake shouldn't be faster in his hybrid state considering Apoo kept up with him the same regardless of base or hybrid being used.

Hybrid Drake is comparable to a casual buso Zoro who should be above serious base Zoro. And he drew blood from the CP0 leader (albeit with piercing damage), who took a Boom from Apoo clearly better than Base Luffy did with his 1 petaton durability, so while he still backscales he is definitely above his base and equal in Hybrid to Killer.

Thus, Hybrid drake is at least equal in AP to Killer.

And Drake has kept up in speed with Zoro and reacted in base to Yamato, and IIRC all Zoan forms boost speed unless stated otherwise (like Kaido).

I'm still voting Killer though FRA.

 

[Eminiteable]

Hybrid Drake is comparable to a casual buso Zoro who should be above serious base Zoro.

Based on what?

And he drew blood from the CP0 leader (albeit with piercing damage), who took a Boom from Apoo clearly better than Base Luffy did with his 1 petaton durability

Yeah with piercing damage which isn't comparable to an explosion, this isn't relevant.

while he still backscales he is definitely above his base and equal in Hybrid to Killer.

Killer can deflect multiple tatsumaki Kaidou's and was able to make Kaidou spit up blood with his Sonic Scythes which even the Gamma knife failed to do, Hybrid X Drake isn't on that level at all.

And Drake has kept up in speed with Zoro and reacted in base to Yamato, and IIRC all Zoan forms boost speed unless stated otherwise (like Kaido).

No, it's the other way around. We don't treat zoan forms scaling higher unless stated otherwise (for example king).

There's a pretty blatantl anti-feat for it as well as Apoo kept up with Drake to the same degree regardless of the form he was in.

 

[Eseseso]

Based on what?

Well why would Zoro use Buso if he thought his serious Base could do the job?

It's kind of like how a no-Haki G3 is still above G2 with Haki.

Yeah with piercing damage which isn't comparable to an explosion, this isn't relevant.

I was trying to say that Drake did a fair bit of damage with him, even if it was with piercing.

Killer can deflect multiple tatsumaki Kaidou's and was able to make Kaidou spit up blood with his Sonic Scythes which even the Gamma knife failed to do, Hybrid X Drake isn't on that level at all.

Sonic Scythe still isn't AP so it being above Gamma knife is useless unless you wanna make a CRT saying that Sonic Scythes are AP

No, it's the other way around. We don't treat zoan forms scaling higher unless stated otherwise (for example king).

What about those like Kaido who aren't stated bust are still faster in Zoan according to their profiles?

 

[Eminiteable]

Well why would Zoro use Buso if he thought his serious Base could do the job?

It's kind of like how a no-Haki G3 is still above G2 with Haki.

Oda was not letting him fight smart to pad for time until chapter 1000, didn't even use his third sword despite wanting to get to the roof on time.

Sonic Scythe still isn't AP so it being above Gamma knife is useless unless you wanna make a CRT saying that Sonic Scythes are AP

What do you mean by it's not AP? If it wasn't AP it would do no damage. It's a durability negating attack, yes, but even durability negating attacks did less damage than Killer.

What about those like Kaido who aren't stated bust are still faster in Zoan according to their profiles?

Kaidou's physical abilities are stated to be superior in hybrid, it's plausible that accounts for speed as well.

 

[Eseseso]

What do you mean by it's not AP? If it wasn't AP it would do no damage. It's a durability negating attack, yes, but even durability negating attacks did less damage than Killer.

Do a CRT if you think sonic scythes are AP.

I mean they still mean Killer wins this match regardless.

 

[Eminiteable]

Do a CRT if you think sonic scythes are AP.

I think they're durability negation, but his durability negation still requires AP.

 

[Eseseso]

bump

 

[Eseseso]

BUMP

 

[14405User]

Killer

 

[Eseseso]

Killer

Reason?

 

[14405User]

Reason?

Voting Killer since has has better AP and durability negation

 

[KingTempest]

Easily Killer fra

 

[Eseseso]

Easily Killer fra

And that's GRACE

 

[Eseseso]

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