Bayformers: Semi-Major Scaling Revision + Stealth Force Additions.

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

So we got two different Calcs that help make the Bayformers Scaling be less messy. First we have this Blackout Calc that Ironhide level characters will Scale to and then we have this Soundwave Feat from the DotM Game that Bumblebee level characters will Scale to. Techincally the Low-Ball for the Soundwave Feat would also apply to Ravage since he does the same thing in RotF plus he can somewhat damage Bumblebee so it would be consistent and 2007/RotF Bumblebee Scales to it because he One-Shot Ravage.

On to our second part of this CRT, we really need to add Stealth Force Statistics to everyone who's shown to be able to use it. At 2:29 Optimus is explaining how to use Stealth Force mode and he mentions that the weapons in Stealth Force mode are stronger than your Robot Mode's weapons and in the same video at 6:09 he says that your Vehicle Mode's Durability is better than Robot Mode as well. So here's all the characters that get Stealth Force mentioned on their Profiles: Megatron, Optimus, Sideswipe, Bumblebee, Ironhide, Enforcer, Dino/Mirage, Starscream, Soundwave and Ratchet. When Warpath, Stratosphere and the other Aerialbots eventually get added they'll have it too. Shockwave doesn't get these because he doesn't have an Alt Mode in DotM, Movie or Game.

Edit: Soundwave's Feat because I'm a dumbass and didn't think to put in the actual Blog.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

You should've waited for the calc to be evaluated first smh. Anyway, I already stated the low end is the best to go with in the comments of the calc.

The rest is fine, just "higher with stealth force" in the AP and Dura section is fine

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

You should've waited for the calc to be evaluated first smh. Anyway, I already stated the low end is the best to go with in the comments of the calc.

The rest is fine, just "higher with stealth force" in the AP and Dura section is fine

I just wanted the CRT to be made now so I can sleep without thinking about it keeping me up all night. That being said, the Dura Part is for Vehicle Mode in general, not just Stealth Force.

 

[LordTracer]

The Soundwave calc hasn’t been evaluated so obviously, it can’t be used for now. Plus DotM Bumblebee is Ironhide tier so it’s not super useful anyways.

Everything else is fine.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

I evaluated the Soundwave calc and the changes seem fine imo

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

The Soundwave calc hasn’t been evaluated so obviously, it can’t be used for now. Plus DotM Bumblebee is Ironhide tier so it’s not super useful anyways.

Everything else is fine.

I meant Bumblebee Tier as in 2007/RotF Bumblebee.

 

[LordTracer]

I meant Bumblebee Tier as in 2007/RotF Bumblebee.

I’m aware. There’s no reason for 2007/RotF Bee to scale to Soundwave.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I’m aware. There’s no reason for 2007/RotF Bee to scale to Soundwave.

He One-Shot Ravage who has the same Feat as Soundwave.

 

[LordTracer]

Why didn’t you say that in the OP smh

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Why didn’t you say that in the OP smh

Because I thought we all knew about it at this point but I guess I'll have to edit some shit real quick.

 

[LordTracer]

I mean, when you say “we have this Soundwave Feat from the DotM Game that Bumblebee level characters will Scale to”, it makes it seem like you’re scaling them directly to Soundwave lmao

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I mean, when you say “we have this Soundwave Feat from the DotM Game that Bumblebee level characters will Scale to”, it makes it seem like you’re scaling them directly to Soundwave lmao

Soundwave upscales from this feat since he didn't get One-Shot by Bumblebee unlike Ravage and he was fighting a stronger Bumblebee than the one Ravage got merc'd by. Also I need to fix Soundwave's Striking Strength and its Justification, since he can damage people who harm him with physical strikes in the DotM Game. That moment he punched Bumblebee and did nothing whatsoever is starting to look more like an outlier if anything because just before that happened, Soundwave literally picked him up and threw him like 20 feet away so there can't be a massive gap between them. I know I used that to Downgrade him before but I don't really agree with it anymore.

 

[KLOL506]

Changes seem fine at a glance.

I'm still weirded out at the fact of Soundwave being the same weight as Ravage (Given his size he should absolutely weigh much more than that even with mass shifting taken into account), but oh well.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Changes seem fine at a glance.

I'm still weirded out at the fact of Soundwave being the same weight as Ravage (Given his size he should absolutely weigh much more than that even with mass shifting taken into account), but oh well.

I still think we should've used Bumblebee's Weight but whatever, Soundwave's gonna be 8-B+ Anyways through scaling to DotM Bumblebee. Ravage, 2007/RotF Bumblebee, Barricade and Rampage are gonna be the one's effected by the Calc the most.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Agree with everything I guess, since we did discuss this already.

 

[KLOL506]

Also @XSOULOFCINDERX you dumbass, you forgot to link the actual feat to the calc LOL

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Also @XSOULOFCINDERX you dumbass, you forgot to link the actual feat to the calc LOL

************.... There, I edited it in.

 

[KLOL506]

************.... There, I edited it in.

In the DAMN BLOG dumdum

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

In the DAMN BLOG dumdum

I can't put in the Blog because it's not mine.

 

[KLOL506]

@Dark-Carioca Fix this

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[RoTt35]

The changes seem fine

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[KLOL506]

@DemonGodMitchAubin @Confluctor

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

@DemonGodMitchAubin @Confluctor

We still need Carioca to fix his Blog too.

 

[Confluctor]

Since the calcs seems accepted, I don't have issues with it. Also higher with stealth force for ap and Dura seems fine too.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Am I good to start adding things or are we still waiting for Carioca to edit his blog to actually put the feat in it?

 

[KLOL506]

Am I good to start adding things or are we still waiting for Carioca to edit his blog to actually put the feat in it?

DemonGodMitchAubin also approved the calc. We're good to go.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Alright, I'll start editing them in the morning.

 

[KLOL506]

Alright, I'll start editing them in the morning.

I can do it now.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I can do it now.

OK then. Go for it. So that's literally everyone that be getting a buff that isn't an 8-A or higher character.

 

[KLOL506]

Am I good to start adding things or are we still waiting for Carioca to edit his blog to actually put the feat in it?

Carioca put it in his blog. We're good to go.

 

[KLOL506]

Also what do we do about this calc?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Supporting feat

Also what do we do about this calc?

 

[KLOL506]

Okay so should Soundwave be "8-B, higher with weaponry, even higher with Stealth Force Mode" or "8-B+, higher with Stealth Force Mode"?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Okay so should Soundwave be 8-B, higher with weaponry or 8-B+

8-B, 8-B+ with weaponry

 

[KLOL506]

8-B, 8-B+ with weaponry

Would the 8-B+ involve his Stealth Mode too?

 

[KLOL506]

Also what would Ironhide's tier be now? Straight up 8-B with "At least City Block level, possibly City Block level+"? Or should it just be straight up "At most 8-B+"?

 

[KLOL506]

Also I think we should have a profile for Ravage as well.