Omnipresent vs immeasurable

[TRUTH]

To be omnipresent is to be present everywhere. just like infinite speed, it can perform infinite action at 0 time/exist everywhere at the same time. Since infinite velocity < is immeasurable, can it also surpass the OMNIPRESENT, which means the same as infinite velocity? is it possible? I'm very curious about the answer

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Immeasurable would beat omnipresence through space only but not omnipresence that also goes through time.

 

[ImmortalDread]

I think being omnipresent does not mean necessarily you have the immeasurable speed or infinite speed already.

This should all be analyzed on a case by case basis - omnipresent characters cannot be automatically assumed to have Infinite or Immeasurable speeds, and attacks coming from them do not necessarily cover the entire universe or multiverse. Some attacks can even be temporally but not spatially omnipresent, and these attacks do not necessarily move through space at Infinite or Immeasurable speeds. Despite the difficulty, it is possible for characters with certain abilities, such as Acausality, Cosmic Awareness, and Dimensional Travel, along with sufficient area of effect or hax, to keep up with omnipresent characters with measurable reaction and attack speeds.

 

[Dereck03]

Omnipresence is not speed but a state of being is not related to speed at all. But there are anyones who say that by being omnipresent you automatically have immeasurable and they maintain this despite the fact that the page itself debunk it.

 

[Sniper670]

Let's just say an omnipresent attack that exist everywhere and everywhen will be unavoidable by the immeasurable

 

[ImmortalDread]

Let's just say an omnipresent attack that exist everywhere and everywhen will be unavoidable by the immeasurable

The question is, is infinite and immeasurable speed an average (normal) speed?

 

[Sniper670]

I didn't get the question sorry

Confusing right at the end

 

[ImmortalDread]

I didn't get the question sorry

Confusing right at the end

In speed wiki, it's stated “normal speed”, so my question was if immeasurable speed is also normal speed.

In addition, an attack from an omnipresent being is unavoidable with normal speed due to the attack being in every location in the universe at once.

 

[Makoto500]

In speed wiki, it's stated “normal speed”, so my question was if immeasurable speed is also normal speed.

Edit:My bad I misinterpreted this, anyways it wouldn't change anything.

(Though it sometimes can avoid it, really just depends on the range of the omnipresence and how limited the immeasurable speed character is.)

 

[Makoto500]

To be omnipresent is to be present everywhere. just like infinite speed, it can perform infinite action at 0 time/exist everywhere at the same time. Since infinite velocity < is immeasurable, can it also surpass the OMNIPRESENT, which means the same as infinite velocity? is it possible? I'm very curious about the answer

Honestly depends on the range but going on something like 2-C omnipresence and immeasurable it would be something like this:

Omnipresence>Immeasurable>Infinite

Infinite is still bound by linear time so it's below immeasurable, immeasurable can move anywhere but it wouldn't be everywhere at once so if a immeasurable speed character simply runs to the past, a omnipresent being is already there while not there and if it moves back from the present the omnipresent being is also there.

 

[Vietthai96]

Omnipresence>Immeasurable>Infinite

Infinite is still bound by linear time so it's below immeasurable, immeasurable can move anywhere but it wouldn't be everywhere at once so if a immeasurable speed character simply runs to the past, a omnipresent being is already there while not there and if it moves back from the present the omnipresent being is also there

Bullshit.
1. Infinite speed allow user to move instantly everywhere with 0 second, so spatial omnipresent can't do a thing because even if omnipresent character fire attack everywhere infinite speed user can instantly move to every place at the same time, counter every attack at the same time. The only one who can beat infinite speee is Temporal Omnipresent, since they exist across time they can strike infinite users in the past to kill them

2. Immeasurable can be anywhere????. That is infinite speed, Immeasureble speed treat time as distance, they can move through time via sheer speed, so when omnipresent character. They can react to even Temporal Omnipresent, by striking in the past, before they even move to attack in the present, they could well raise their defense in the dawn of creation to defend attacks across time

Let me remind you, Omnipresent is just a state of being, not a speed, their attack speed do not related to their state of being. There could well an omnipresent character with subsonic attack speed. Omnipresent advantage is because they exist everywhere it is hard to affect them totally without range and AoE, and they can attack from all the place at one, but the speed of their strike is something completely unrelated

 

[Makoto500]

Bullshit.
1. Infinite speed allow user to move instantly everywhere with 0 second, so spatial omnipresent can't do a thing because even if omnipresent character fire attack everywhere infinite speed user can instantly move to every place at the same time, counter every attack at the same time. The only one who can beat infinite speee is Temporal Omnipresent, since they exist across time they can strike infinite users in the past to kill them

I'm using temporal and spatial.

2. Immeasurable can be anywhere????. That is infinite speed, Immeasureble speed treat time as distance, they can move through time via sheer speed, so when omnipresent character. They can react to even Temporal Omnipresent, by striking in the past, before they even move to attack in the present, they could well raise their defense in the dawn of creation to defend attacks across time

This is my bad I should have clarified anywhere In time, depending on how good the immeasurable is.

Let me remind you, Omnipresent is just a state of being, not a speed, their attack speed do not related to their state of being. There could well an omnipresent character with subsonic attack speed. Omnipresent advantage is because they exist everywhere it is hard to affect them totally without range and AoE, and they can attack from all the place at one, but the speed of their strike is something completely unrelated

I already know this though

 

[ImmortalDread]

Bullshit.
1. Infinite speed allow user to move instantly everywhere with 0 second, so spatial omnipresent can't do a thing because even if omnipresent character fire attack everywhere infinite speed user can instantly move to every place at the same time, counter every attack at the same time. The only one who can beat infinite speee is Temporal Omnipresent, since they exist across time they can strike infinite users in the past to kill them

2. Immeasurable can be anywhere????. That is infinite speed, Immeasureble speed treat time as distance, they can move through time via sheer speed, so when omnipresent character. They can react to even Temporal Omnipresent, by striking in the past, before they even move to attack in the present, they could well raise their defense in the dawn of creation to defend attacks across time

Let me remind you, Omnipresent is just a state of being, not a speed, their attack speed do not related to their state of being. There could well an omnipresent character with subsonic attack speed. Omnipresent advantage is because they exist everywhere it is hard to affect them totally without range and AoE, and they can attack from all the place at one, but the speed of their strike is something completely unrelated

Tbh ur attacking him without any reason (idk why you got offended, but his comparison should clear enough what he meant)

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

I mean if you attack Everywhere in Space, Past, Present and Future then it doesn't matter if the Immeasurable Speed Character goes to the past or the future, or dodges everywhere at once they would still get hit.

 

[ImmortalDread]

I mean if you attack Everywhere in Space, Past, Present and Future then it doesn't matter if the Immeasurable Speed Character goes to the past or the future, or dodges everywhere at once they would still get hit.

Ya exactly. Wiki always treated like that. Omnipresent > immeasurable

 

[Vietthai96]

I mean if you attack Everywhere in Space, Past, Present and Future then it doesn't matter if the Immeasurable Speed Character goes to the past or the future, or dodges everywhere at once they would still get hit.

Ya exactly. Wiki always treated like that. Omnipresent > immeasurable

Never, show me where???

 

[ImmortalDread]

Never, show me where???

How can you dodge an omnipresent attack? There were a thread who someone asked the same question and it was illogical. You can't dodge an omnipresent attack

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Never, show me where???

I'm attacking you everywhere in the past, in the present, in the future WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO DODGE TO?

 

[Greatsage13th]

Maybe a place that has no when and where?

 

[Makoto500]

Maybe a place that has no when and where?

It's about immeasurable though also jokes on you putting the page of omnipresence here we see this:

Omnipresence is the property of being present everywhere, whenever and nowhere at the same time,

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Oh then I guess you have to dodge to a place that is neither everywhere nor nowhere.

 

[Eficiente]

Our Speed page is pretty bs. We will get to it in time.

 

[Makoto500]

Bruh just go to a place where a omnipresent being is limited.

(Like go to a 1-B structure if the omnipresent being is 2-A in range)

 

[ImmortalDread]

Oh then I guess you have to dodge to a place that is neither everywhere nor nowhere.

Girl... you can't dodge an omnipresent attack. It's impossible. Unless you mean a place which is nonexistent, then we can talk

 

[ImmortalDread]

Bruh just go to a place where a omnipresent being is limited.

(Like go to a 1-B structure if the omnipresent being is 2-A in range)

We are not talking about range right now

 

[Makoto500]

We are not talking about range right now

Ain't we talking about how to dodge a omnipresent being?

 

[ImmortalDread]

Ain't we talking about how to dodge a omnipresent being?

In the same level, it's impossible. Ofc if you are higher level and range you can bypass everything

 

[ImmortalDread]

How can you dodge an omnipresent attack? There were a thread who someone asked the same question and it was illogical. You can't dodge an omnipresent attack

https://vsbattles.com/threads/what-speed-is-dodging-an-omnipresent-attack.132500/ here