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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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So does anyone going to explain why the hell ichigo got upgrade to large star level to solar system level?
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I was looking at bleach profile to see what level ichigo was when I saw that it’s said large star level I was like why tho but naruto can even get planet level on this website that’s crazy
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Y’all don’t think that’s something wrong with that?
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They got upgraded in a CRT is why tho.
Make a planetary Naruto CRT ig? Idk what you want us to tell you here.
Wrong with what?
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Wrong that naruto is only moon level but ichigo got upgrade to large star level for a reason I don’t understand also yall say that naruto feats are outliers but ichigo going from multi continent level to large star level is not a outlier
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Two Reasons.
1: Bleach just has better evidence for their higher-tier scaling compared to Naruto, which includes Planetary scaling for Naruto. (imo, though i'm fine with Naruto scaling to 5-B)
2: Bleach Debaters are just better at debating their verse compared to Naruto Debaters on this site.
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I have a huge problem with ichigo being that level with zero feats to back him up being that level
naruto has good feats to put him to small planet to large planet level it just don’t make sense to me
naruto has good feats to put him to small planet to large planet level it just don’t make sense to me
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Oh ok ig
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He has the feats/scales to people who have the feats tho, that's why he's scales to High 4-C/4-B.
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Idk who "y'all" are that you're referring to, but I've never been a fan of the outlier argument since I joined this wiki. So, I get your frustration there, but to my knowledge Naruto doesn't have any calcs accepted above Moon level+. And none of the novel stuff with Momoshiki is consider canon, nor do people find it acceptable to scale people to ETSO, hence why none of the tier 4 stuff is really used.
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Ok why is the light novel feat not canon when it’s apart of the boruto timeline also some people might disagree with me but I actually thing that naruto should scale to the Etsb other website do it why can’t y’all did it for naruto unless you thing it’s a outlier or somethingIdk who "y'all" are that you're referring to, but I've never been a fan of the outlier argument since I joined this wiki. So, I get your frustration there, but to my knowledge Naruto doesn't have any calcs accepted above Moon level+. And none of the novel stuff with Momoshiki is consider canon, nor do people find it acceptable to scale people to ETSO, hence why none of the tier 4 stuff is really used.
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But that’s a whole other topic I can make in a separate thread tho
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There have been a bajillion scale them to ETSO threads, that it's been thread banned since it's been debunked so many times. Honestly, there should be a blog made for why they dont scale to ETSO, but iirc it's because it required IT chakra that amped Kaguya exponentially and whatnot.
The novel adapts the movie which was retconned by the manga and anime, hence why it isn't used.
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Just… make a thread
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Honestly I don’t care it’s whatever besides everybody else thinks naruto god tiers are star level and above so y’all might not accept him being star level or above but other people do so everybody has there own opinion about what level naruto god tiers are.
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Please don't drag up old topics like the light novel, please...
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Does everybody think she's star level tho? Ik a ton of people who simply have them at large planetary
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True but like I said everybody has their own opinion about what level naruto is?
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Yuh, personally I think Moon level+ to Large Planetary (depending how generous you are with calcs) is the sweet spot for the God tiers.
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And I believe he should be large planet level going by simple power scaling the ten tails 2nd form had small planet levels worth of chakra which is small planet level and Toneri said he was going to destory the planet earth with the moon which is planet level that’s 2 feats/statements I give you to put the god tiers to small planet to planet level plus since naruto baryon mode is dozens of times stronger than Toneri who can destory the earth so that would mean naruto baryon mode Isshiki and code( maybe other characters) would be large planet level so my question is why are they god tiers not at that level I give y’all it just crazy to me
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I have never seen anyone scale Kaguya below Solar system. Even non-Naruto fans/scalers have her at Solar system minimum. Others like Naruto, Fused Momoshiki are kept at star-Solar system. Isshiki is kept at Solar+ by most people.
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The thing is, statements like the sword of nunoboko stated to be able to destroy the world should be a valid statement especially when we know the juubi is already a planetary threat via his chakra capacity. But every time something like this happens with Naruto characters, they would never be accepted as an upgrade. Something that doesn't happen in Bleach or dragonball is what happens with the Naruto characters. There's no difference between Juubito's claim that the sword of Nunoboko destroys the planet compared to Perfect Cell's statement of him being able to destroy the solar system.
It's just the bias people have against the Narutoverse.
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Yea I actually agree with you on that in my opinion I put the naruto god tiers at moon to large planet level
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Bringing up Bleach scaling in a Naruto thread? Pretty cringe, bro. That's just bound to start needless toxicity, my guy.
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Those statements are only valid if you've never heard of a thing called context and poetic language.
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Obito: Wanted to place the world's population into a genjutsu..
The fandom: He was going to destroy the planet.
The fandom: He was going to destroy the planet.
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That's a common misconception, they were comparing it to the chakra surveillance bubble, which doesn't encapsulate the entire planet, only the battle field. So, the chakra volume isn't actually small planet level.
Toneri throwing the moon has been calcd at 5-C+, which is why I don't think him throwing the moon is planetary. I do think his last ditch effort suicide attack that absorbed solar energy is planetary tho.
Sadly there's no way to solidly quantify the amp Baryon mode gives, but it probably is meant to be a massive amp above any we've seen in the series.
No, the context of that statement was destroying the world the Sage created, which Hag created a society, not a planet.
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Wait what that mean?
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No way bro
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Btw was Kaguya stronger back when she fought her sons or after she absorbed the chakra from the IT?
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He's saying that assuming Juubito is planetary with that sword based on the statement ignores the context in which the statement was made.
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Do you believe in Madara's Universal statement?
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She was stronger against Hag and hamura since she had the complete chakra of the ten tails(Naruto possessed Kurama later) and possessed all the chakra that would have been distributed to the entire shinobi world.
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It means that the statement is most certainly not planetary when examined under the proper context.
Obito wanted to trap the world's population into a super genjutsu. He cannot do that if there's no planet....
Likewise, saying the statement is only for life/surface wiping does not work because everyone would still be dead.
And the "Hagoromo shaped the world with it" statement is too vague to mean anything conclusive, but it's also definitely not a 5-B statement due to the fact that Hagoromo did not create or morph the planet.
Ultimately, his point is that context matters a great deal when interpreting statements; something this fandom sorely lacks more often than not.
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I mean didn’t hagoromo create the moon on his deathbed in naruto so him creating the planet in is healthy prime state is not Impossible
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