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So it's believed that Light speed can not be reached by anyone in the verse right? So we tend to ignore feats, not from Shinra, that could be FTL, Light speed, etcetera. We even make Shinra's FTL not combat applicable even when he never slows down once his body forms together at FTL speeds to land a blow. I believe that FTL is possible in the verse.
So all of these weird ideas came from Licht because some of us believe everything Licht says due to him being a scientific figure in the verse and,to some, "the smartest" right? Licht explains everything that is happening through his scientific scope which is partially wrong considering the fact it is revealed later in the story that most of the things happening are illogical. Later in the story, he realizes why he can't explain illogical things logically so he finally explains things in terms of how Adolla works.
Is Licht Right To Use Theory Of Relativity To Explain Shinra's powers? How fast is Shinra immediately after he disintegrates?
The concepts/theories Licht uses to discern these things are fine. These concepts govern this world, but after the Cataclysm, that wiped that world, was partially complete, So I can't say Licht is 100% right. There are a few flaws in the way he decides to deduce everything from these scientific theories. Adolla has the power to change the physics, mathematics, and Logic of THAT world. Since it was partially complete, who is to say the logic in the main world hadn't partially changed too? So if you see something that contradicts physics, it should be ignored as part of the things that have partially changed. Licht states that Shinra moving at FTL speeds would cause a black hole and we see that it never happens. The reason he said that is because he knows, according to the theory of relativity, an object's energy will increase as it approaches light speed, and at light speed, the object must require infinite energy to keep going, which is impossible in a universe with finite energy. Clearly, Shinra's energy isn't infinite at light speeds nor faster than light speeds. One more thing is that Shinra himself does not go back in time, his disintegrated body does. All of this could be one of the slight changes in physics from the previous Cataclysm, ergo those who react to Shinra at Faster Than Light speeds do not have to conform to special relativity.
Licht stated that objects disintegrate at a certain speed, later he states that Shinra's body disintegrates at the speed of light only on the basis of his time-stop ability. And he says that Shinra is moving at faster than light speeds to stop time. On top of the fact that there is no other way for him to discern what speed Shinra disintegrates at because he has no tools, however, he can only guess by his ability to time stop. This is also probably why he said Shinra disintegrates at light speed too, that's inaccurate. We shouldn't believe every single thing Licht says except it correlates with what is shown.
Next, We see that Shinra disintegrates before reaching light speed because, at light speeds, he is already in particle form. Yes!, Shinra can be in particle form even before reaching light speed. As shown when Shinra's particles froze when Sho stopped time. And when time began to move Again, Shinra was able to surpass light speed to reform and destroy a pillar. Licht says that if Shinra disintegrates at light speed, he will move in sho's stopped time. Clearly, that is incorrect. Shinra disintegrates before reaching the speed of light. Also, Shinra can do a lot more things with his speed. He can stop time, he can reverse time on his body at FTL speeds, He can turn back time, except on his body cuz he doesnt degenerate into nothingness going 250 years in the past, at FTL speeds, and He can bring buildings and things back from nonexistence into existence, one by one, at FTL speeds. It is that clear, Shinra's time manipulation does not totally conform to special relativity. As such Shinra's Time manipulation at FTL speeds should only be his ability and inherent to him.
Now, Shinra disintegrates because his body isn't strong enough to handle the shock, Those who are physically more sturdy than him will handle simple actions like reacting to attacks at high speeds. Therefore those who are capable of engaging in combat with FTL Shinra should scale accordingly. There is no scientific or in verse law that states every object breaks down at light speed. And due to the partial changes in logic from the last cataclysm, they don't have to conform to Special relativity to validate their feat. We can't ignore their feats.
Hopefully, I have been able to free Fire Force from its shackles. Now we can consider FTL speed feats. Send FTL speed feats you can find, so far these are the ones I know
So all of these weird ideas came from Licht because some of us believe everything Licht says due to him being a scientific figure in the verse and,
Is Licht Right To Use Theory Of Relativity To Explain Shinra's powers? How fast is Shinra immediately after he disintegrates?
The concepts/theories Licht uses to discern these things are fine. These concepts govern this world, but after the Cataclysm, that wiped that world, was partially complete, So I can't say Licht is 100% right. There are a few flaws in the way he decides to deduce everything from these scientific theories. Adolla has the power to change the physics, mathematics, and Logic of THAT world. Since it was partially complete, who is to say the logic in the main world hadn't partially changed too? So if you see something that contradicts physics, it should be ignored as part of the things that have partially changed. Licht states that Shinra moving at FTL speeds would cause a black hole and we see that it never happens. The reason he said that is because he knows, according to the theory of relativity, an object's energy will increase as it approaches light speed, and at light speed, the object must require infinite energy to keep going, which is impossible in a universe with finite energy. Clearly, Shinra's energy isn't infinite at light speeds nor faster than light speeds. One more thing is that Shinra himself does not go back in time, his disintegrated body does. All of this could be one of the slight changes in physics from the previous Cataclysm, ergo those who react to Shinra at Faster Than Light speeds do not have to conform to special relativity.
Licht stated that objects disintegrate at a certain speed, later he states that Shinra's body disintegrates at the speed of light only on the basis of his time-stop ability. And he says that Shinra is moving at faster than light speeds to stop time. On top of the fact that there is no other way for him to discern what speed Shinra disintegrates at because he has no tools, however, he can only guess by his ability to time stop. This is also probably why he said Shinra disintegrates at light speed too, that's inaccurate. We shouldn't believe every single thing Licht says except it correlates with what is shown.
Next, We see that Shinra disintegrates before reaching light speed because, at light speeds, he is already in particle form. Yes!, Shinra can be in particle form even before reaching light speed. As shown when Shinra's particles froze when Sho stopped time. And when time began to move Again, Shinra was able to surpass light speed to reform and destroy a pillar. Licht says that if Shinra disintegrates at light speed, he will move in sho's stopped time. Clearly, that is incorrect. Shinra disintegrates before reaching the speed of light. Also, Shinra can do a lot more things with his speed. He can stop time, he can reverse time on his body at FTL speeds, He can turn back time, except on his body cuz he doesnt degenerate into nothingness going 250 years in the past, at FTL speeds, and He can bring buildings and things back from nonexistence into existence, one by one, at FTL speeds. It is that clear, Shinra's time manipulation does not totally conform to special relativity. As such Shinra's Time manipulation at FTL speeds should only be his ability and inherent to him.
Now, Shinra disintegrates because his body isn't strong enough to handle the shock, Those who are physically more sturdy than him will handle simple actions like reacting to attacks at high speeds. Therefore those who are capable of engaging in combat with FTL Shinra should scale accordingly. There is no scientific or in verse law that states every object breaks down at light speed. And due to the partial changes in logic from the last cataclysm, they don't have to conform to Special relativity to validate their feat. We can't ignore their feats.
Hopefully, I have been able to free Fire Force from its shackles. Now we can consider FTL speed feats. Send FTL speed feats you can find, so far these are the ones I know
- Sho reacts to Shinra
- Burns Stage 4 reacts to Shinra
- let me know what you find next below and i will add here.