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Garou Revision
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I agree of course.
Can we use this thread to get a consensus on the naming of Garou’s tabs?
Can we use this thread to get a consensus on the naming of Garou’s tabs?
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Of course, we're adding new keys names included.
I propose changing the name of the "post sage centipede" key to "perfected fist", just because it's probably his final form and deserves a pizazzy name.
That aside I agree, it all looks pretty good.
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I don’t mind either Perfected Fist or Post- Sage Centipede.
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The names of the keys doesn’t matter that much to me, as long as the stats of said keys are fine.
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It looks good. As someone who does go big for names and all that I must say I'm not aware of any more personalized names that would fit the post darkshine key.
If any fellow onomatologists know of such a name, share your knowledge I beg you
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Perfect.Overhaul of Garou’s page with his new abilities, forms and stats from the past few chapters.LordTracer/Garou
I agree to this.
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Now I'll actually have to debate this here . . . I'll be back in a bit with a nice and long reply.
And before anyone says "hurr durr 12 hours". I never argued that. Stop saying I did. That was never my point. Anyone actually looking at what I said would know that.
Edit: You should probably also list what is new, as anyone who doesn't know what happened in those chapters can't really tell.
And before anyone says "hurr durr 12 hours". I never argued that. Stop saying I did. That was never my point. Anyone actually looking at what I said would know that.
Edit: You should probably also list what is new, as anyone who doesn't know what happened in those chapters can't really tell.
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Agreed, but he should've some kind of fire manipulation (has fire on his body)
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This is covered in "Up to" inferring he needed to evolve to do so.
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Profile looks good, though the new feat may not quantify for Lifting Strength.
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Also, wait, you guys are trying to give him lifting strength via this? Yeah, that's a huge no go. You cant get lfting strength from punches, let alone a tackle.
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It should qualify as he did this by physically pushing Saitama into the earth, not just striking him a single time.
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He didn't punch, he pushed, no?
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The jets were from his second pair of arms btw. I imagine he used the jets because he can’t exactly push Saitama downward with having something to push against. Otherwise he would just be doing a handstand on Saitama.
Besides that he was simply pushing Saitama and his arms never collapsed the entire time.
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I did say tackle. It's not LS either way.
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It seems like a pretty clear LS feat to me. Garou wouldn’t be able to keep that same position the entire attack if his strength was far below that. His arms would’ve broke or collapsed.
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So you are are saying he physically lifted the plate rather than it being the shockwaves (which are AP) of his impact?
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Pushing is exerting a constant force on something that causes it to move away from one's self despite resistance (In this case, sheer Mass).
It should count as LS. His strike ended when he hit the ground and plowed through the mountain. After that, he was exerting pure physical strength to push Saitama into the ground which produced enough force to raise the continent on the other side of the planet.
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No, I’m saying the attack is also a LS feat for Garou. The parameters of what he lifted is a different story.
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Ok, but that's still not lifting in any way. Holding your arms straight vs lifting isn't even close to being comparable. Also, his arms not breaking certainly isn't a showing of LS.
Even if it was a LS feat, it wouldn't scale to the weight of the continent which is what is currently on the profile.
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You realize a lot of lift strength training in real life involves pushing, right? Pushups, leg press, and bench/overhead press are some of the most famous examples of this.
He was pushing against the force/mass of the Earth and directly caused the continent to extrude outwards as a result. It should scale to LS.
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This makes no sense. All the stuff you just mentioned is just general strength training. None of this makes pushing Saitama into the ground LS. Especially since 99% of that feat was AP of him slamming into the ground, creating the shockwaves (I should rly stop calling them that), which then pushed the continental plate. If you wanna talk about his LS, just know he didnt even manage to break through earths crust via said pushing.
This isn't LS by any means.
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Phoenks is right, pushing does counts as a feat of lifting strength, and Garou was pushing hard enough to bulge the Earth in a determinated timeframe, it wasn't really a punch or any kind of fast impact.
And even if you were going to say that Garou needs thrusters to be able to push with that amount of force, it would still count as lifting strength.
It is no different than Iron Man pushing the helicarrier rotor or the ferry using his thrusters.
And even if you were going to say that Garou needs thrusters to be able to push with that amount of force, it would still count as lifting strength.
It is no different than Iron Man pushing the helicarrier rotor or the ferry using his thrusters.
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He did push the Earth's crust kilometers inwards. But anyway, that aside from the point.
His "initial strike" (What you say is a tackle) ended here. If he had let go of Saitama there and this feat still happened, then it would have been pure AP. But that isn't the case.
Everything afterward was him further pushing Saitama into the ground, causing extreme seismic waves that raised the continent on the other side of the planet. It is a LS feat and it scales to AP as well.
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No it didn't. Huh? It keeps going for the next few panels. What on earth would make you think it ends there? If that was him just pushing, this is not how the feat would have looked like. There wouldnt be any shockwaves, no massive hole, no denting of the crust. That doesn't happen via "pushing". That's still AP from his attack. Him continuing doesn't mean it is lifting. Keeping a speed is vastly easier than getting there.
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Of course i agree
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well the feat would actually look like that...since thats what happened...and if you look at the panels before and after, garou still has his hands in the same exact position pressed down on saitama.
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A bit random but
Murata really outdid himself with Garou's final form design. That transformation fire asf
Murata really outdid himself with Garou's final form design. That transformation fire asf
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That isn't evidence for your claim at all. That's your interpretation based on how you feel about it. I actually gave a reason for my claims. How Garou holds Saitama has nothing to do with this. Please show me evidence that his attack lost all its KE the moment he smacked into the mountain and we can talk.
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Well my reasoning is Garou pushes Saitama into the earth = LS. Like there’s no further reasoning needed, sometimes the hardest questions have the simplest solutions.
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Yes there is. What? Are our standards for LS actually this awful? I honestly can't imagine that. Him pushing Saitama anywhere isn't LS unless he did it with 0 additional KE. Simple as that. Prove that he lost all KE and continued with LS. If you can't do that it's not LS. Otherwise it's like pushing a car that was already rolling.
You have the burden of proof to show that isn't the case. Not me.
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I would like to assume you skipped over Phoenks and Therefir’s comments…
Garou rolls a car, then that car hits a wall but he pushes the car through the wall and continuously does so.
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Yes, it did. Everything after he initially hit the ground is him pushing Saitama into the Earth, which directly causes seismic waves that lift the continental plate. Once again, if he had stopped his attack after hitting the ground, then it would count for only AP.
What do you mean that "doesn't happen via pushing"? You do realize the action of pushing releases energy too, right? Especially kinetic energy. There is absolutely nothing preventing a push from generating shockwaves, holes, and denting of the crust. It is literally what happens in the panels. What even is your argument?
Yes, it is both Lifting Strength and Attack Potency. It is not uncommon for them to go together, especially with pull/push feats like this.
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