Battle For Strongest 1st 3-A

[Muchacho_mrm]

Kingprotea VS Proud Heaven​

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Conditions.​

Speed Equalized.
SBA.
4KM apart (can be changed upon request).
Battle takes place on a neutral plane of existence.

Let me know if Kingprotea needs any special conditions for a fair fight.

 

[Confluctor]

Links?

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

He'll have a tier change in the future, but why not try for a placement before that lol.

Anyways, he has 5-9 D immortality type 8 and his immortality type 9 comes from his true-self being 5-9 D. His immortality type 8 is due to him being deeply connected to the essence of the God world. He is fated to ascend into the God World, becoming 5-9 D, unless Kingprotea has smurf higher than that.

He has passive paralysis, powernull, subjective reality, chaos manipulation and law manipulation. Also passive both physical and physic pressure, capable of crushing someone out of existence, including their body, souls, nascent divinity, will, etc.

He has a 5-9 item with him. Within it, he has a 5-9 D murderous god. If he's killed, then that God would be released, likely murdering, possessing and/or absorbing his opponent.

 

[Regidian]

5-9D it will depend on what scale it's used.

For the passive kingprotea resist them on 8D scale. And she have a passive curse that inflige babyfication which turn people to be mentaly and physically a baby.

Well with speed equal i don't know how this function but whitout speed equal she would win because her immeasurable speed.

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

Both are correct. Similar to how Kingprotea is Low 1-C, possibly 1-C. But you can assume it's 9-D.

If she's 8-D, she can't kill him nor permanently stop his ascension. Also, can her passives reach other dimensions? Because that is what is needed to affect Proud Heaven.

I'll explain cultivator biology. At his level of existence, their bodies are a mass of walking dimensions and their bones are physical laws. How big or how small their body is doesn't matter to them, so turning them physically into a child doesn't matter. If it's reverting aging to that point, he was never a baby.

If it's turning them into a child, regardless of their make up, affecting both his soul (his soul is his mind) and his will (some abstract metaphysical thing), then his immortality type 8 will either make him avoid it or it'll be negated one way or another. For example the Great Necropolis blesses him as it's real inheritor, which would negate it and just increase his powerlevel.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

I could be wrong, but if the verse have 5-9 D things/beings why is that there is no profile with tier 1 rating in the verse?

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

I could be wrong, but if the verse have 5-9 D things/beings why is that there is no profile with tier 1 rating in the verse?

Yang Qi sheds a tear.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Yang Qi sheds a tear.

Wait, I confused the dude with the other one proposed in the list Lin Jie, sorry

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Both are correct. Similar to how Kingprotea is Low 1-C, possibly 1-C. But you can assume it's 9-D.

If she's 8-D, she can't kill him nor permanently stop his ascension. Also, can her passives reach other dimensions? Because that is what is needed to affect Proud Heaven.

I'll explain cultivator biology. At his level of existence, their bodies are a mass of walking dimensions and their bones are physical laws. How big or how small their body is doesn't matter to them, so turning them physically into a child doesn't matter. If it's reverting aging to that point, he was never a baby.

If it's turning them into a child, regardless of their make up, affecting both his soul (his soul is his mind) and his will (some abstract metaphysical thing), then his immortality type 8 will either make him avoid it or it'll be negated one way or another. For example the Great Necropolis blesses him as it's real inheritor, which would negate it and just increase his powerlevel.

How much would take him ascend to 9-D because unless is something relatively fast I don't think it would come to play in the fight.

The babyfication was something that BB used against Kingprotea and Kingprotea is made of a Imaginary Number space which is basically a higher dimensional plane with various effects (you can see it in the powers section to get more details). BB cursed Kingprotea with it to counter her infinite growth, so automatically when Kingprotea reach 20 years she return to be a baby both physically and mentally. Servants mind/information/concept is in their soul so the curse should also be able to affect his mind, you can check servant physiology, servants are also immortal but still affect them.

If his haxs aren't also 9-D then Kingprotea would resist them.

And if he have a 9-D being that can fight for him shouldn't it be listed in the tier and attack section?

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

How much would take him ascend to 9-D because unless is something relatively fast I don't think it would come to play in the fight.

The babyfication was something that BB used against Kingprotea and Kingprotea is made of a Imaginary Number space which is basically a higher dimensional plane with various effects (you can see it in the powers section to get more details). BB cursed Kingprotea with it to counter her infinite growth, so automatically when Kingprotea reach 20 years she return to be a baby both physically and mentally. Servants mind/information/concept is in their soul so the curse should also be able to affect his mind, you can check servant physiology, servants are also immortal but still affect them.

If his haxs aren't also 9-D then Kingprotea would resist them.

And if he have a 9-D being that can fight for him would it be listed in the tier and attack section?

The babyfication is already a non-factor, based on my explanation above. Whether it's his eventual rise into godhood or the Great Necropolis, both still negate and get him from point A (where he is) to point B (the God World).

The 9-D being isn't fighting for him lol. Proud Heaven sealed him. Technically, in this fight, he has to mentally focus on the murderous 9-D being trying to escape and his opponent. The context is on the profile, under standard equipment.

So Kingprotea can't kill him, her passive doesn't work. She can't deal with his immortality type 9, not to mention how Kingprotea dies once King Immortal-Slayer is released. Someone who has this attached to them:

When King Immortal-Slayer appeared, it meant a reign of terror and gore was about to be unleashed. And that counted in the god world, much less the immortal worlds.

Also Proud Heaven can simply just enter the Great Necropolis and win due to range (she wouldn't be able to affect or enter the Great Necropolis).


Lastly, the AP issue. How does she deal with it? She isn't Mid-Godly. Even if she was High-Godly, add his true-self to the mix and chaos manipulation should do it, considering not even concepts like time, fate and karma can escape the touch of primal-chaos. If the regen/AP issue is due to her real body being higher D, as I think that is what you're implying based on the Imaginary Number space sentence. Wouldn't she not be 3-A?

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

Babyfication not only changes the body to be younger but also their memory into a child. Also Kingprotea has a Passive Gravity Manipulation come from her presence made the entire SE.RA.PH (which is higher dimensional plane) distorted, and that gravitational field pull engulfing all of existences like they never existed.

Considering how Kingprotea is an INS user, so she can also trap his opponent using Immersion by swallowing it.

 

[Orioreeem]

If his fate hax that gets him to God world is 9D then it doesn't really matter if his memory or body or whatever is turned into a child. He will simply ascend and win because that's his fate.

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

About the Great Necropolis. It's a 9 D item with unknown origins in the series. There exists seeds one can take into their body to become an inheritor of the Great Necropolis. However, Proud Heaven took the first and real seed, making him the true inheritor. Additionally, only an inheritor can kill another inheritor.

As for what the seeds grant, it basically just gives the inheritor, the Great Necropolis' protection. MC couldn't bring them down as every time he tried, the Great Necropolis either protected them or gave them powerups. Forget killing, he couldn't even truly harm them because the Great Necropolis would just heal them, protect their metaphysical aspects and even revert changes that aren't lethal. Even sealing them away in a 9-D item didn't help, the Great Necropolis broke through it to grant them it's blessing, not to mention it broke through that item to try and remove the inheritor from his predicament.

Even if she has some kind of passive smurf 8-D destruction, it wouldn't affect the present timeline the fight is taking place, as the mere presence of the Great Necropolis ensures that it won't. Going back to the chapters, I also found out that he now has an additional type 8 immortality, as an inheritor will exist so long as the Great Necropolis exists, even their soul being one with the Great Necropolis.

So like before, she can't kill him, her passive doesn't work, even if it did, the Great Necropolis would just undo it and he now has a new type 8 immortality.

Her only wincon is if speed was unequalized and she'd only win by incap through some unknown method, as she'll still be unable to kill him nor deal with his immortality type 9 and the literal murderous God he has sealed.

Lastly, the Great Necropolis can be shrunk down into the palm of one's hand but it can stretch out to contain all levels of reality up-to 9-D.

 

[Orioreeem]

This is pretty much a stomp