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Meliodas VS Ji Ning
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Rikimarox2
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jo ning. He doesn`t use magic so full counter won`t work
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Honestly what stops Meliodas from just attacking with Hellblaze and negating his regeneration? Not to mention he has no resistance to hellfire manipulation and meliodas can just use Revenge counter on him after taking so many hits.
Also Upper rank Demons have Fear Manipulation and paralysis inducement according to their physiology and he doesn’t resist that either, assuming Meliodas is using assault mode
Also Upper rank Demons have Fear Manipulation and paralysis inducement according to their physiology and he doesn’t resist that either, assuming Meliodas is using assault mode
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Are the fear and paralysis passive or does he need to hit Ning with it?
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Well it has to do with their presence so it should be passive
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Mel is like always a soul/passive/counter stomp lol. I'd like to think what's his face has an answer. What do his supporters think? Can he outrange the auras? Soul manip apparently won't work, and he's not magical. But can he tank revenge counter/sense/avoid it?
Those seem like Mel's obvious wincons.
Those seem like Mel's obvious wincons.
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I vote Meliodas fra
speedster352
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Meliodas also has other abilites like darkness(trilion dark) and etc so he can win this
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Him dodging? Not getting hit by attacks that trigger a sense of danger from him is how he normally fights, Revenge Counter would be an issue though but Ji Ning has a decent chance at killing him before that happens considering his sheer skill advantage and his standard tactic of immediately grinding regenerators or physically powerful opponents to dust with his Lotus or Dao Domain. Also correct me if I'm wrong but aren't his Counters magic based?
It seems to specifies weaker beings though, which Ji Ning certainly isn't considering his massive power advantage. Though, this does remind me to get that revision out soon that has him resist fear aura but I suppose that's not too relevant at the moment.
speedster352
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Trillion dark is danmaku so it's hard to dodge and Meliodas can spin it around himself in order to win and according to sba it's night time and Meliodas get's an amp to his magic. Meliodas is an expert swordsman and has clones, darkness and hellblaze so cqc is not a good idea if even possible considering how dangerous trillion dark is. Meliodas also has mid regen can cover himself in darkness and infuse hellblaze into his sword swing and slah jin 1000 times in an instant. So Meliodas can win this.
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"Expert swordsmen" are what a 10 year old Ji Ning was eating for breakfast while holding back and the Feats section speaks for itself, despite it only showcasing his feats till he was around 16. Clones aren't an issue when he has a massive raw power advantage and was slaughtering thousands of High 6-C constructs with his swordplay while tired. As far as skill and cqc goes, Ji Ning has a massive advantage in that regard.
A far less experienced and skilled Ning could dodge 10,000 arrows coming in from all directions back when he was barely as fast as any single arrow so Danmaku also isn't an issue. He has his own Danmaku in the form of rain whose each drop carries a sword attack.
Mid regen is off little concern. Ji Ning regularly kills Fiendgods like himself, who all can regenerate from a drop of blood by grinding them to less than dust via his Waterflame Lotuses.
speedster352
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Meliodas can crush him with his darkness aura like he did to his brothers. Also Melidas has the ap advantage with true magic and night amp
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The crushing implies an AP advantage. Speaking of, how does Meliodas have that? 297 Gigatons are what are oneshot by people who are oneshot by people who are oneshot by Ji Ning. Unless OP is wrong, Meliodas just scales above the 200 Gigaton feat.
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Also like I said Meliodas can surrond himself with trillion dark and spin it around himself at high speed so ji can't get close
speedster352
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Exactly also true magic is stronger than full power demon king and he get' a night amp.
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....? Did you not understand what I said? Ji Ning oneshots people who oneshot people superior to Meliodas' 200 Gigaton value. Even with an undefined amp, that's not crossing that AP gap.
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And again, this stops Lotus+Grind how? He can spawn his elemental attacks directly on opponents.
speedster352
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Meliodas can FC it he FC natural lightning and darkness it's on his profile.
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Ji-Ning FRA
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Has he ever Countered non-projectile attacks? Or anything that just manifests on his body? Though, there's the matter of how Ji Ning can paralyze his soul with the Soulshaker Art and use said attack immediately as well.
Even then, there's still the matter of Meliodas' lacking the power for his Danmaku and such to do any damage before Ji Ning swiss cheeses him with his sword. Even more so considering Ji Ning's regeneration.
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Hellblaze negs his regen and revenge counter yes Meliodas has FC king's status promotion which had no physical presence and appears on the body. Meliodas has extreme soul resistance. Ask byashura what Meliodas' ap is. edit Meliodas has resistance to paralysis on his profile he can also cover his body in darkness to increase his offensive and defensive abilities.
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He can dodge Hellblaze, like I already said (he's well used to dodging and avoiding large scale elemental attacks), especially when his soul is practically yelling "that'll f*ck you up!" when he sees it.
Mhm. I guess you can bring up any scans and such that showcase this? I guess I can understand if some stuff isn't on a profile.
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Real sorry to bother ya but I was hoping you could point out Mel's AP in this key.
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I simply got the AP Value from the NNT verse page. It says the strongest High 6-C's scale to 200 gigatons, so...
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Meliodas (currently) scales to 200 gigatons.
It's not stated how far above DK he is, but it's likely a small gap.
It's not stated how far above DK he is, but it's likely a small gap.
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Hellblaze has aoe like how he surrounded drole and gloxina with hellblaze and he can infuse it with his sword swing and his attacks or just burst with hellblaze and it cannot be put out by any means(except absolute cancel and light magic) he can slice him 1000 times in an instant with hellblaze infused. His true magic form possibly has durability negation and EE.
Edit Meliodas can spin trillion dark around himself so CQC is not an option.
speedster352
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Meliodas also has rage power, true magic and night amp so he can possibly close the ap gap.
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....That's not closing a 4 person oneshot chain starting above Mel's power.
Half the cultivators that exist use the same sort of technique, it's not something he isn't used to. Again, how does Trillion Dark prevent CQC? It's not oneshotting him, so he gets in close and slices and dices while trusting his regeneration to deal with what little damage they can do. Or just makes it rain, except every drop is a High 6-C sword attack. Or just spawns water and freezes him.
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I'm neutral, just clarifying some stuff.
Meliodas can also full counter his own attacks to increase their power, as he's had to do this during combos.
Many times, especially explosions. One time he reflected magic that amplifies existing effects.
Meliodas can also full counter his own attacks to increase their power, as he's had to do this during combos.
Full Counter and Counter Vanish are, but Revenge Counter doesn't seem to be.
Night amp only increases magic power. Still a big, big advantage.
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Meliodas has resistance to freezing and harsh conditions from purgatory anyway Meliodas can clear the ap gap with true magic, rage amp, FC his own attacks and night amp. Anyway, the one Escanor was verbatim said to be equal to the prime demon king who said it himself and the one ultimate surpasses the prime demon king and Assualt mode Meliodas is equal to the one ultimate Escanor and true magic far surpasses that to an unknown margin. Also, Meliodas can soul steal if necessary or seal him if he is getting pushed and the revenge counter doesn't work.
Edit Meliodas could possibly manipulate the weather with true magic form. And Meliodas has a lot of aoe attacks like darkness pillars that destroyed an entire kingdom and aoe hellblaze attacks and hellblaze infused attacks. Demons also have enhanced senses.
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A killed off version of him had the Commandments.
Post-Purgatory (the one who has True Magic) doesn't.
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I could have sworn he used the power of the commandments to end his and Elizabeth's curses. My bad then, ig i just misremembered.
Honestly, i don't see how Meliodas could win this. I'll begrudgingly have to vote for Ji-Ning for now.
speedster352
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Tbh naruto vs Meliodas would be a better matchup
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That was True Magic.
speedster352
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But why Meliodas has alot of haxes and resistances to ji hax and can negg his regen.
Jibz
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Comments so far from those who seem knowledgeable on Ji Ning make it sound like he won't get hit by Meli's attacks, and the crazy ap scaling difference is also iffy. Sure hellblaze is strong, i just don't see Meli tagging Ji with it.
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