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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier continued

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deonment said:
sorry bout that, I type in a stream of consciousness style and I need to fix that

The mind-stuff should work since from what I can read on the profile he doesn't resist Ego death
There wouldn't really be a body to take over given continuous deconstruction on a quantum level
I mean it seems abstract in the way that thoughts and dreams are abstract from what I can read off the profile
I mean, the number of stars doesn't work given if we wanna go that route, adam can affect every single microorganism on the planet with his hax, which includes bacteria who exist in trillions, and he can also affect every single plant as well, and yes they do count towards the number of his hax
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What is ego death here?

He resist deconstruction at a level where it affects the spirits too. This is layered.

In-verse everything has a spirit too as each thing is a representation of the Dao.

Like I said, Adam would have to face not only ZY but also his spirits plus Xin Huo is stronger from all points but computation compared to ZY. He can simple think and separate the soul and spirits from the body to kill Gods who here are 4B beings which would mean they are higher in cultivation realm thus more layers.

Dreams aren't comparable with type 2 concepts.

At the same time, can even Adam think faster than ZY who can compute hundreds of millions of skills at once, create plans and counters for them at the same time, even create new techniques to combat/counter them. Even with speed equal ZY would be faster as you can't equalize techniques which he has a lot that would grant him speed plus his Yin-Yang Sword Qi that will instantly kill Adam.

Adam barely has resistances while ZY can resist or counter most if not all of Adam's powers. Adam also lack in variability of powers or ways to take ZY down while ZY has dozens.

You can make a match if needed.
 
deonment said:
I know, but uh, i didnt mean like that i meant to what scale does the matter hax in verse extends to, atomic, sub-atomic etc, because adam can break things down into their quarks with his hax, and what type of mind and soul hax have the characters resisted exactly
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Well, Ether is the thing that composes matter as physical thing to begin with so... sub-quantum level basically. Controlling the thing quants are made of.
 
What places Theodore Miller above the Godspeed characters' conceptual/law stuff in Low 7-B?
 
DontTalkDT said:
What places Theodore Miller above the Godspeed characters' conceptual/law stuff in Low 7-B?
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Nothing. From what I see miller has 4C attacks, can turn to 2D to avoid attacks, low-godly regen negation, 4C invenurablity for 1 attack, anti magic,. That's it conceptual stuff comes in his 4C key
 
I see. Time to have Senpai oneshot him to get her into a position she shouldn't have.

Although, looking at things... doesn't Strahd kinda have the same problem of having no real defense against concept/law stuff?
 
DontTalkDT said:
I see. Time to have Senpai oneshot him to get her into a position she shouldn't have.

Although, looking at things... doesn't Strahd kinda have the same problem of having no real defense against concept/law stuff?
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It's dnd. He has but I don't know if it will be enough. Law Spells exist in dnd. True naming is basically concept magic.
 
Don't most dnd hax resistance have like 100 layers of resistance or something? Some crazy stuff.

Add onto that, DnD has almost every power that ever existed and they become ultra OP.
 
YungManzi said:
Don't most dnd hax resistance have like 100 layers of resistance or something? Some crazy stuff.

Add onto that, DnD has almost every power that ever existed and they become ultra OP.
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No in the lower tiers. That's only in the Gods level. The lower tiers don't have the mountain of hax the higher one have
 
Setsuna_tenma said:
It's dnd. He has but I don't know if it will be enough. Law Spells exist in dnd. True naming is basically concept magic.
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I mean, he has no such resistance listed, so officially he doesn't.
And I still find it weird how D&D characters are at times considered immune to stuff they can get affected by according to game rules
 
What does Nasuverse characters have in low 1-C and 1-C? Who are representatives, what are their passives, first moves etc. Also i thought all nasuverse characters have 8D hax how can they have a spot in low 1-C?
 
Orioreeem said:
What does Nasuverse characters have in low 1-C and 1-C? Who are representatives, what are their passives, first moves etc. Also i thought all nasuverse characters have 8D hax how can they have a spot in low 1-C?
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layered hax. They have scaling chains for their hax. BB and Alter Arjuna are the representatives
 
Reinhard van Astrea and Satella for 5th 7-A.

Reinahard has Type 8 Immortality, Indefinite Resurrection, Matter Manip, Spatial Manip, and resistance to hax.

Satella has passive Madness Manipulation (Type 3), passive Absorption, passive Soul & Mind Manipulation, and Time Manipulation.

I do not think Seol has any ability to permanently kill or incapacitate them.
 
Subaru for 2nd or 3rd 10-A

Type 8 Immortality reliant on Satella (Grants infinite resurrection upon death that sends him back in time). Starts with Beatrice, who has Transmutation, Power Nullification, BFR, Spatial Manipulation, and Invulnerability
 
Phoenks said:
Subaru for 2nd or 3rd 10-A

Type 8 Immortality reliant on Satella (Grants infinite resurrection upon death that sends him back in time). Starts with Beatrice, who has Transmutation, Power Nullification, BFR, Spatial Manipulation, and Invulnerability
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Really unsure that's gonna cut it against the others in those spots...

Although, seeing how 10-A has free spots anyway: Sabrina Spellman is a good pick for that as well. If Subaru can get a spot she should have pretty solid chances.
 
DontTalkDT said:
Really unsure that's gonna cut it against the others in those spots...

Although, seeing how 10-A has free spots anyway: Sabrina Spellman is a good pick for that as well. If Subaru can get a spot she should have pretty solid chances.
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what can they do against Subaru exactly? The people in the other spots don't seem to have ways of dealing with his immortality (If they kill him, Subaru is going to be sent back in time, and thus he will basically have precognition on what they'll do on top of getting another chance at killing them), and Beatrice's hax don't seem to be resisted by the contestants there either
 
Phoenks said:
what can they do against Subaru exactly? The people in the other spots don't seem to have ways of dealing with his immortality (If they kill him, Subaru is going to be sent back in time, and thus he will basically have precognition on what they'll do on top of getting another chance at killing them), and Beatrice's hax don't seem to be resisted by the contestants there either
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I mean: Jean Grey for instance is a powerful telepath that would probably read his mind, figure out everything about him and then just put him into a permanent coma via mind manip.
 
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DontTalkDT said:
I mean: Jean Grey for instance is a powerful telepath that would probably read his mind, figure out everything about him and then just put him into a permanent coma via mind manip.
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I see, though Subaru resist mind manipulation on the level of a few hundred people I believe.

Anyway, if he gets incapped by Jean I think he can settle for 4th? What makes Aaron formidable?
 
Phoenks said:
I see, though Subaru resist mind manipulation on the level of a few hundred people I believe.

Anyway, if he gets incapped by Jean I think he can settle for 4th? What makes Aaron formidable?
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I think Jean's potency is higher, although I'm no comics expert.

As for Aaron... nothing probably. So Subaru can probably get 5th place with Sabrina getting 4th or higher.
 
Phoenks said:
I see, though Subaru resist mind manipulation on the level of a few hundred people I believe.

Anyway, if he gets incapped by Jean I think he can settle for 4th? What makes Aaron formidable?
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Nothing. The 10A list was empty so he gained a spot.
 
With NEP update, anyone knows which will II IIah get?

Also now that i think about it when it comes to Eden, if higher dimensions=multi-dimensional, what exactly would creating an infinite multi-dimensional universe be? It's a universe with multiple higher dimensions obviously, but it's infinite? Hmm, sounds like some weird infinite 6-D stuff.
 
Celestial_Pegasus said:
With NEP update, anyone knows which will II IIah get?

Also now that i think about it when it comes to Eden, if higher dimensions=multi-dimensional, what exactly would creating an infinite multi-dimensional universe be? It's a universe with multiple higher dimensions obviously, but it's infinite? Hmm, sounds like some weird infinite 6-D stuff.
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I thoughts it could be High 1-B with more contexts like from the raws. Though, currently, I guess it could some infinite Low 1-C.
 
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