Baki Hanma vs Junko Enoshima

[Stillwinston]

Imma regret the hell out of this aren't I?

Speed is equalised. Both are 8-B, Baki is bloodlusted. SBA otherwise

Martial Arts Jojo: 2

Smth Smth Despair: 2

Incon: 0

Baki Hanma

Baki Hanma (範馬 刃牙, Hanma Baki) is the titular protagonist of the Grappler Baki franchise, with the goal of surpassing the strongest creature on Earth, his father, Yujiro Hanma with the blood of Baki's mother on his hand. Through numerous installments, he has settled himself as an incredibly...

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Junko Enoshima

Junko Enoshima (江エノノ島シマ 盾ジュン子コ, Enoshima Junko?) is a student of the 78th class of Hope's Peak Academy with the title Ultimate Fashionista[1][2] (超高校級の「ギャル」, Chō kōkō kyū no "gyaru"?) for her impeccable fashion sense and ability to predict and set trends, but in truth, her actual talent is...

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[ElixirBlue]

Baki is pretty skilled as a fighter but he has no resistance to Junko's madness manipulation, which tend to convert people to her side. Her Social Influencing as one of her methods to do so is pretty powerful, helped that she can read people like book, even by walking past them on the street.

I'll put my vote for Junko.

 

[CBslayeR]

how is any of that combat applicable?

 

[Stillwinston]

What's the AP here again?

 

[TauanVictor]

I'm pretty sure Baki has AP for one-shot.

We need a Baki supporter here to confirm.

 

[ElixirBlue]

how is any of that combat applicable?

Talking? Its pretty much what all and every character is capable of.

 

[Stillwinston]

Would it not be hard to get a sentence off if you get one shotted though?

 

[ElixirBlue]

SBA is willing to kill, not the characters are bloodlusted as rabid dogs. They are still in character.

 

[Epiccheev]

Wondering what phrase she would say to Baki to make him despair.

 

[Livinmeme]

Wondering what phrase she would say to Baki to make him despair.

door knob

 

[ElixirBlue]

Ah, has my vote been counted?

 

[TauanVictor]

Wondering what phrase she would say to Baki to make him despair.

Yujiro.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Baki isn't mentally the soundest of individuals. Nor would Baki, in character, feel the urgent need to take down a girl. Thats just the nature of Baki's verse, since the only serious characters Baki would need to react to are males. Which makes Junko's manipulation on Baki that much easier.

 

[Stillwinston]

Now I'm not that knowledgeable on Baki but it seems like he's 84 tons or so without demon back, what's Junko's AP again?

 

[Livinmeme]

Baseline, pretty sure she gets one tapped by baki

 

[TauanVictor]

Now I'm not that knowledgeable on Baki but it seems like he's 84 tons or so without demon back, what's Junko's AP again?

Baseline, specifically 11 Tons.

That is, Baki one-shots.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Baseline, specifically 11 Tons.

That is, Baki one-shots.

Junko is 16.27 tons.

So roughly a 5.16x difference.

 

[Stillwinston]

I'll need to see how casual the Baki feat is, DB prolly just makes it a one shot anyway at least

 

[TauanVictor]

Junko is 16.27 tons.

So roughly a 5.16x difference.

That difference still allows for a knockout win btw.

 

[ElixirBlue]

So Baki has a wincon, making this not a stomp in Junko's favor.

 

[TauanVictor]

So Baki has a wincon, making this not a stomp in Junko's favor.

Not because Baki's chance of being affected by Social Influence is less than Junko's chance of being knocked out. And since Baki is much more skilled, it is even easier to achieve.

I vote for Baki via knockout.

 

[Livinmeme]

What can even junko do to affect baki anyways? Punching is faster that a decently complex conversation

 

[TauanVictor]

What can even junko do to affect baki anyways? Punching is faster that a decently complex conversation

Probably Junko could talk to Baki while backing away.

And the conversation doesn't necessarily have to be complex.

 

[Livinmeme]

Probably Junko could talk to Baki while backing away.

And the conversation doesn't necessarily have to be complex.

Can baki just Imagination BS

 

[Stillwinston]

Gotta wonder would Junko fall for Baki's dinosaur trick? Ngl that bit was funny lol

 

[ElixirBlue]

Not because Baki's chance of being affected by Social Influence is less than Junko's chance of being knocked out.

Why is that? I don’t remember Baki ever showing immunity or resilience to Social Influencing.

 

[Lynieryz]

Junko FRA.

 

[Livinmeme]

..... how are you going to talk it out if someone 5 times stronger, far far more skilled and can do ilusions_

 

[Shadyboi0]

Imagination FRA

 

[ElixirBlue]

..... how are you going to talk it out if someone 5 times stronger, far far more skilled and can do ilusions_

Because he doesn't have anything resisting Junko's Hax just by talking. There are characters in Junko's verse that are physically stronger than her but fall to her manipulation into despair.

 

[Livinmeme]

Because he doesn't have anything resisting Junko's Hax just by talking.

Junko aint talking when she is getting smacked by a guy 5 times stronger,

 

[ElixirBlue]

Junko aint talking when she is getting smacked by a guy 5 times stronger,

She is, cause Baki isn't bloodlusted and the guy primarily goes all out when he senses the physical strength and skill of his opponent to be a worthy challenge. Junko doesn't give Baki those same senses to go all out. Baki also like to talk before fighting, like against Biscuit Oliva, so its not out-of-character for Baki to let Junko talk.

 

[Livinmeme]

Why would baki let her keep talking after he notices that it starting to affect him tho

 

[CBslayeR]

Why wouldn't Baki attack her, all of this is assuming that Baki just lets her talk instead of actually fighting

 

[Bruhtelho]

you guys realize this is Junkos 8-B key right? shes controlling Monokuma so she isnt fighting this alone, she can talk through monokuma so she doesnt have to get close to cause Baki to fall into despair, she can control hundreds of Monokumas at once if need be, and as the Ultimate Analyst can predict everything Baki does the moment she glares at him

Why would baki let her keep talking after he notices that it starting to affect him tho

he wouldnt notice though cause its basically instant and could effect someone who's pretty much emotionless

 

[Livinmeme]

Okay so this is a massive stomp like is basically a army that can give insta depression vs one very skilled man who is stronger

 

[CBslayeR]

Junko doesn't have 100s of monokuma's listed as standard equipment, we're also using SBA so she isn't even in an area where she could have them I'm pretty sure. Also due to SBA I think they actually start in melee range

 

[CBslayeR]

Also Junko herself gets oneshot here. 9-A vs an 8-B, the Monokuma is the one who's 8-B

 

[Bruhtelho]

Junko doesn't have 100s of monokuma's listed as standard equipment, we're also using SBA so she isn't even in an area where she could have them I'm pretty sure. Also due to SBA I think they actually start in melee range

"Range: Standard melee range. Higher while controlling Monokumas (Can make them travel basically anywhere)"

Junko is never not seen having multiple Monokumas on her in case one is destroyed and the profile constantly states "Monokumas" plural not singular, her durability section also states "At least City Block level (Also has near infinite replacements)" she has multiple monokumas on her no matter what

 

[Bruhtelho]

Also Junko herself gets oneshot here. 9-A vs an 8-B, the Monokuma is the one who's 8-B

Junko has City Block durability that massively upscales as she tanked attacks that one-shotted characters with ease