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Final Fantasy Downgrades

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The same guy who’s death caused the destruction of the entire Void, something shown in the game and you haven’t really debunked it beyond what ifs.
 
Theglassman12 said:
He literally gets engulfed by the Void and his existence became part of it given he’s at best shown to be a spirit in the game with no body. And he tells the cast how they finally understand his existence after explaining what the Void is.
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So you're saying the reasons for being one with the void and thus omnipresence are:
1. the guy gets engulfed by the void
2. the guy is shown to be a spirit without a body
3. the guy compares his existence with the void
4. the void collapses on his death

3rd and 4th point could vaguely imply such a thing, vaguely. @Eficiente since you commented earlier, what do you think?
 
Since he got engulfed by the void, then compares his existence to it and then the void collapses on his death. That does leave the implication that he spread out across the entire void.
 
I should make this a mention, I do agree the Void is a legit 2-A sized Void, and Neo-Exdeath and Enuo individually becoming "One with the void that is going to devourer all existence and all dimensions which include an infinite number of universes in the Final Fantasy Multiverse" are pretty much the backbone for why they're 2-A in the 1st place. But I'm more or less neutral on pushing it being treated as a lifting strength or striking strength feat.
 
@AKM sama yes that’s all of the points going towards them being one with the Void itself.

@Greenshifter in FF5 the crystals literally push back the Void when it tries to erase all of existence, and the characters are blessed by the crystal’s powers and Galuf even pushes through the crystal through sheer strength and willpower during his final fight with Exdeath.
 
Being a part of the Void =/= one with the whole thing. Especially since it could just be Exdeath having full control over it
 
though yeah on one hand it does seem to imply. On the other hand it's kinda very vague regarding being one with the void for omnipresence.

I have played the game including some remasters/pixel and it really does imply some sort of being one with the void rather than outright having full control with it. which is also implied to be better than having full control. so in my own belief, I would agree that it gives some sort of omnipresence to the character.

Wouldn't possibly omnipresent and possibly immeasurable Lifting a possibility here?
 
I think a possibly rating would make more sense here since this isn't clear cut. It's too vague for my comfort personally but I can compromise on a possibly rating.

That meteor thing is still a no from me.
 
@XXKINGXX69 except that he didn’t get control though. He literally lost control over the Void as it consumed him, that’s literally how he became Neo Exdeath in the first place.
 
Clearly you didn't watch the video I posted where you literally see Neo Exdeath coming from the Void. Which proves my argument that being engulfed by the Void makes him one with it.
 
You do realise being a part of the Void doesn't mean your entire being became one with the whole Void right?
 
Read my arguments again and bring something new to the table, I addressed this a hundred times already.
 
Has the meteor feat been removed? And does anything else need to be changed because of that?
 
I think it was agreed to invite some calc group members to recalculate it taking some ang size perception into account.
 
I am not sure something like that can be calculated accurately because it is entirely perspective based and these things don't tend to be drawn as per what actually happens in real life, and tend to be wildly inconsistent. But I will ask a couple people to check.

@Mr._Bambu @Armorchompy Do you think something like this, where a meteor is seen moving close along the camera while the stars far into the background are appearing to be moving, can be calced to judge the speed of the meteor accurately?
 
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@AKM sama Greenshifter said he's trying to contact a dude who can calc the feat so we're waiting on him.
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Okay.
AKM sama said:
I am not sure something like that can be calculated accurately because it is entirely perspective based and these things don't tend to be drawn as per what actually happens in real life, and tend to be wildly inconsistent. But I will ask a couple people to check.

@Mr._Bambu @Armorchompy Do you think something like this, where a meteor is seen moving close along the camera while the stars far into the background are appearing to be moving, can be calced to judge the speed of the meteor accurately?
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@M3X @Jasonsith

Would either of you be willing to take a look at this as well please?
 
AKM sama said:
I am not sure something like that can be calculated accurately because it is entirely perspective based and these things don't tend to be drawn as per what actually happens in real life, and tend to be wildly inconsistent. But I will ask a couple people to check.

@Mr._Bambu @Armorchompy Do you think something like this, where a meteor is seen moving close along the camera while the stars far into the background are appearing to be moving, can be calced to judge the speed of the meteor accurately?
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I'd like to note for all to hear, real quick: our CGMs are hobbyists who aren't guaranteed to be the most knowledgeable on this. We work with what we have. So if for whatever reason the Final Fantasy bros have a professional or something, then consideration should be given- though not instantly accepted. Outside sources can be sus, after all. I bring this up to make it clear that I am capable of being wrong, despite my clear and obvious perfection, har har.

Now, with that said, I don't think this could be calculated, if not due to the details mentioned then due to the perspective. Probably best to just use default asteroid/meteor speed.
 
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Thank you both for helping out. It seems like this likely cannot be calculated by our team then.
 
Glass, calm down. Ant mentioned "our team", and I mentioned that I'm fully willing to be proven wrong. The thread isn't closed or anything.
 
Ant always jumps to conclusions before threads are remotely done, so I’m telling him to wait before we even get to an actual conclusion in the first place.
 
In doing so, you, yourself, have jumped to conclusions. Have patience. We're perfectly capable of waiting for Greenshifter, if the man can get here in reasonable time.
 
I am fine with waiting for Greenshifter.

Given how many threads that I constantly try to help organise, I tend to also try to help them reach a conclusion, but that may turn too hasty at times, yes.
 
I am back (sorta). So have the revisions/edits been carried out?
 
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