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Top 10 Strongest Characters for Every Tier Continuation
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Actually when it comes to say belakor, his power is basically his own he just derives from the RoC itself, not the Chaos Gods as he's barely affiliated with them even after his curse was ****** over.
Lords of change derive from Tzeentch, not all four, and get stomped by Archaon, and Belakor stomps them too, and Archaon stomps Belakor, do you see the issue here?
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Never called you inept so stop straw-manning. So your telling me to group characters together despite on of them is literally INFINITELY above the previous characters? and you believe your position is the correct one?
Down Terrible.
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Now your lying. Don't do that.
And yes, I am, because they're from the same verse and have -999999 competition.
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It is. Because the point is comparison between different settings.
Keep it civil.
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Doesn't matter Bel derives his power from a 5-D creation that's comparable to Chaos Gods. That's why he shares the tier with LOC and Archaon.
Did you read my previous comment i said they derive their powers from Specfic Chaos Gods, not all.
There still both have 5-D hax's so they share the tier with Archaon despite the fact that they both get stomped by him In-Verse.
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I honestly have no idea what your trying to say with this statement. I'm not comparing "Different Settings" as you stated i'm saying the SCP Characters shouldn't share a singular tier because one of them is infinity (Like R>F Stronger) then the previous one's.
I am keeping it civil, saying "Down Terrible" isn't inflammatory in anyway (To me at least).
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Not by your logic for SCP, they're from the same verse but one stomps the other, your reasoning for that doesn't really matter in the end, in basic terms, one just stomps the other.
Then why did you make this if you didn't want to keep the entire reason of the thread alive?
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How am i lying? can you prove that?.
Them being from the same doesn't mean they can't share singular tiers with each other as i explained previously. Also can the 1-A of SCP beat Mage? he has a 10-A tier and most likely has 1-A shit so there is possibly "Competition" (Not that matters since it isn't a defeater to my point even if there wasn't any competition).
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Well, i think it's fine, i don't see Odin and Meng Chuan have a smurf hax and resistances.
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Dude.... The Reason why they don't share a singular tier isn't just because "One stomps the others" my point is one is INFINITELY STRONGER THEN THE OTHERS.
He's has High 1-A Hax's while the other's only have 1-A Hax's.
Massive Difference.
They thread is fine even with my assertions so i don't get the "Don't want to keep the thread alive" reason.
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Alright then'll made the necessary changes now.
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And all of this doesn't matter since we never let characters share adjacent spots if they're from the same setting. You're free to ask the thread maker or other members to change this but this is always how we've done things.
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Proof? Evidence? Anything that proves this since it's directly contradicted by the thread itself.
What do you mean by this?
Until this proven i'm not agreeing to this line of logic (And even if you could prove this i inherently disagree with it)
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Oh my God, it's impossible I quoted two of your posts! Lol
Oh, nice, he is, and since it's 1-A+ now it actually falls in the method used for the rest of the thread
Which DOESNT MATTER BECAUSE THEYRE FROM THE SAME VERSE. Basically everyone can tell you this.
We're comparing separate verses to eachother, ya understand that? Two characters from SCP Foundation are actually from the same verse. AKA following the rest of the thread that ain't a blatant mistake you are wrong.
After this post I'm taking a little break because WOW. Reread the below.
Tier 4-A:
1. Caine (World of Darkness)
2. Pelinal / The Emperor of Mankind (Speed Unequal)
3. Ynnead
4. Characters from Ergenverse
5. Bahamut / Bahamut
Tier 4-B:
1. The Emperor of Mankind (Speed Equalized)
2. Oryx, the Taken King
3. Characters from Warhammer 40,000
4. Characters from Destiny / Characters from Doctor Who (Speed Unequal)
5. Characters from League of Legends
Tier High 5-A:
1. Cthulhu (Cthulhu Saves the World) (Speed Equalized) / Ahzek Ahriman (Speed Unequalized)
2. Other Characters from Warhammer 40,000
3. Xue Ying
4. Du Tian
5. Amon (StarCraft)
For the last time, people can make mistakes, you'd be ridiculously arrogant to believe otherwise.
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I'll address these points later since i need a break from this ******* argument, its making my brain melt and i have more important things to do then argue about this topic.
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Almost every scp 10-A should be get passive plot manipulation from the authors.
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Actually not only Senshinkan, she would probably stomp D similarly to how Avenger did so since the plot isn't passive and her supernatural good luck (minor fate and rw) would prevent that he use it so he would die with any move of her, aditionally I think she actually even have passives like share her curse (age manip).
I also wonder if they have resistances and haxs above 8D that it's the dimensional level of hax of Nasuverse, the first place Xue Ying seem to cap at Low 1-C and in the verse there is no profile with higher tier.
It was agreed several times in the previous thread that Avenger stomp Odin, it's just that it was never changed.
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Or we can just not debate about it because it's clear we probably won't be able to be civil about this even with breaks.
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Alright so some decently major changes coming to this as WH40k Materium characters AP is getting downgraded, most of the verse is becoming 8-C/High 8-C physically including Emps, Kharn, Ahriman and the Primarchs.
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OOOOOOOFFFFF.
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Yeah, and they'd be #1 High 8-C and 8-C though lol
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Mostly psyker shit most likely, doesn't scale to physicals either way.
I know of a few feats that are tier 7, like I think Angron and Kharn bodying some Imperial Titans on separate occasions for each
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Once the Psyker thread happens Emps will likely still be 4-B with Psyker stuff.
Something like “At least High 8-C physically, At least 4-B with Psyker powers” or something like that.
(This is ignoring hax which still reaches Tier 1)
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Don't you mean like 1-A+ or High 1-A?
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High 1A? What's the main tldr reason for that, infinite layers or smth?
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lol no
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Afaik the 1-A upgrades will only make the CGs like 5 levels above baseline rather then Baseline.
Not 1-A+ or H1A.
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My guess is the Warp being fully upgraded to 1-A, top to bottom or something along those lines.
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That is in fact happening iirc.
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Im curious how far above Baseline is Caliborn’s hax?
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Oh really? Considering the bullshit we've been finding in the Warhammer Fantasy discord we're probably getting around 1-A+ lol, maybe High 1-A
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If this is true that would be rather based tho id consider throwing that at Crab and Holy at some point.
The Fantasy and 40k Warp connection was accepted right?
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Yeah, a while back in fact.
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I remember the thread (I was apart of it I believe) I was just trying to remember if it did go through lol
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Late to the WHF argument, and I think it should? Even without AE they should have passive Madness Type 3 which I don't see on Amakasu's profile (though I've learned to not take profiles at face value) + Lords of Change have Conceptual Power Nullification and Modification that either causes your attack to dissipate or turn into something else that ***** you over. Moreover, they can do this and also passively cause reality to erode at 5D (soon to be 1-A+ levels)
Technically speaking with the newest CRT accepted, you could argue that Lord of Change already have the ability to do this as a common Warp would mean that being able to affect Dhar/Aethyr would be 1-A rather than low 1-C of the previous iteration of Warhammer Fantasy, but I'd rather debate with all of our bases covered.
Problem being is that it's a dangerous slippery slope, as Archaon is much superior to a Lord of Change and is unaffected by its aura, then it becomes us handing out 1-A hax and hax resistance to everyone without a solid CRT establishing our cosmology.
Technically speaking with the newest CRT accepted, you could argue that Lord of Change already have the ability to do this as a common Warp would mean that being able to affect Dhar/Aethyr would be 1-A rather than low 1-C of the previous iteration of Warhammer Fantasy, but I'd rather debate with all of our bases covered.
Problem being is that it's a dangerous slippery slope, as Archaon is much superior to a Lord of Change and is unaffected by its aura, then it becomes us handing out 1-A hax and hax resistance to everyone without a solid CRT establishing our cosmology.
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Blackcurrant is definitely working on it, and I believe they're getting all the kinks of the connection of tiers worked out with Crab.
Yes, extremely reluctantly I might add, it was more like "i don't like this but I have no grounds to oppose it" lol
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Given all Foundation agents will receive this from Swann entitles and they currently have 1st and 2nd 10-A we should have Foundation staff for first 10-A and potential Olympia for 9-B after it goes thru.
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If she has the same win-cons as Avenger then she definitely gets D's Placement.
Xue Ying's Hax's are 6 to 7-D in potency from what i know and he has Immeasurable Speed with his "Extreme Piercing" which most of his Hax's are based-around.
Changed it already.
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