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How long does that Time-Stop last?
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Top 10 Strongest Characters for Every Tier Continuation
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Need to wait that a crt apply some thing before i do it
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As long as he wants? He's never given a limit and we he was repeatedly using his powers on Danny, he stated "I can do this all day".
Honestly I guess you can put him in 5th place for now since it's open, until I make the match just to be safe.
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Alison Eckhart for 5th 10-A.
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No but the spot was open so she's just a place holder until someone can provided another character that beat's her.
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IDK? i have no idea where JoJo Characters ranked except Kars (The Broken One) so maybe or maybe not.
The best i can say is create a match between a JoJo Character and Alison to see who gains the spot.
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Jean Grey can just mind hax her
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his 10A key isn`t that impressive he gets the op stuff in his later key. All he has in the key is immortality and sevenfold curse. He can be incapped
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get incapped back 7x ezdab
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Does the curse only apply when Caine is physically damaged? If so, then both Jean and Alison shouldn't be able to activate the curse with their primary attacks.
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How exactly would this work against Alison's conceptual manipulation, when it's not actively harmful nor harmful towards Alison if reflected.
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How higher is smurf Vampire Hunter D character? can't Space Ishtar be placed on they side? because she has passive Low 1-C (6D) Hax and resistance.
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She is 6D possibly 8D so he would need to be above 8D, also, Space Ishtar don't have 3-A key, it's Kingprotea who have one and since she have the same level of hax the other side would need to have higher D than her. From what I remember D was 5D so Kingprotea should be higher than him, Xue Ying at most only reach Low 1-C and there is not profile with a higher tier than him so I don't see how he could have 9D things that could make him be above Kingprotea so she should be second place in 3-A, don't know about the Shinza dudes in that tier so not gonna touch that part.
No thing in the verse of Odin (Fortissimo) reach tier 1 so he don't have way to resist the haxs of Space Ishtar or affect her so she need to be placed as first in 3-C. In 3-B the verse of Meng Chuan don't have any profile with tier 1 things so the same thing that with Odin, with Zhong Yue happen the same and with Xue Ying it's the same thing that with Kingprotea, the only character that could **** her is Bai Xiaochun but I don't know if in his 3-B key he have 1-A haxs and resistances.
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I mean at the Low 2-C list.
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Oh, didn't saw that, sorry.
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These birds for a spot in 4C. 5D resistances, Type 3 Acausality
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The'll take the 3rd spot until a thread between them and Rumple is made given that Rumple does have hax's that The Photino don't resist like Plot Manipulation.
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5D, Depends on what her passives are and if she can resist the effects of both D's Passives and the Akashic Records.
She also needs to be able to interact with D as well given his NEP Type 2
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wait are civilization profiles allowed?
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This is the standar set of resistance beings with Authority have in Fate:
All of them 6D to possibly 8D. She also have the resistances from the Servant Physiology which some of them also are 6D-8D from what I remember. Similarly all her haxs are 6D-8D as someone with Authority, plus the haxs of Servant Physiology.
Servants also can interact without problem with Kama who is NEP 2.
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manlifold is allowed in tier 0
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Downstreamer is civilization but the Goddess isn't
so I'm not sure.
including civilization doesn't really sit well imo
so I'm not sure.
including civilization doesn't really sit well imo
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It seems she resist most of D's hax's and can interact with him, though she doesn't seem to resist his most powerful hax with the Akashic Records which is Plot Manipulation so i don't know if she could actually beat him or not.
Make the thread with her against D and if she beats him she'll gain the spot.
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Agree since this thread is about the Top 5 Most Powerful "Characters" which inherently disallows entire civilizations having placements since they aren't "Characters" but "Civilizations"
So i'm completely fine removing any placements on this list that are occupied by "Civilizations" but i also wan't the opinion of those on this thread as well.
So is every-one fine with these re-movements? Yes or No.
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But civilizations are made of characters. Or just use one character from said civilization. It'd change nothing really.
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Plot manip can affect beings of higher D than oneself? Also, one of her passives is charm/mind hax and law hax, 6D-8D obviously, so even if the plot manip work he would get charmed and the laws would be ******.
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How is she Higher-D? i checked her Profile and the only thing that seems to possibly grant any-form of Higher-Dimensional is this.
"Incorporeality (Her true form is nothing more than her domain being the space-time itself)"
Which from first-glance doesn't seem to be above 5-D at all. it actually seems to be 4-D since her true form is one with her domain which is Space-Time, Space-Time is inherently 4-D until more context is given if Space-Time within Nasuverse is above 5-D or not.
Sure she could have those passives but i don't know if the effects of the Akashic Records are passive as well, that's why i'm asking you to just create a Versus Thread so more knowledgeable people on the verse can explain it more in-depth then i can since i haven't Vampire Hunter D at all.
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I mean, since all her resistances (in which there are resistance to reality warping, fate, law, casuality, etc, plot manip it's just a specific use/subtype of them) and powers (including the passives) are higher d than the Akashic Records, so how it's she supposed to be affected by the plot manip? That's what I'm asking. Because she don't have listed the specific power variation of plot manip suddenly all her resistances and haxs which are higher d would be nulled? Because that sound NLF.
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Plot Manipulation:
Akashic Records powers are listed as:
Which she resist:
So she resist the things listed that the Akashic Records do and how it do so, except plot manip, so tell me, magically the plot manip would null all of that despite the fact that her resistances are higher d than the Akashic Records itself? Because if that's the case even a character like Altair or Chowder would be able to defeat a, for example, a Low 1-A character like the Horrorterrors since it don't have plot manip resistance, that's NFL.
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resisting Reality Warping is a broad ability.
Reality warping is just like subjective reality. it has multiple applications. by resisting it you can resist all of its possible applications because you resist where the ability originated from not because you resist all its application. but doesn't mean you can resist the application of those abilities that is no longer done through reality-warping. so she's not getting through plot manipulation.
Reality warping is just like subjective reality. it has multiple applications. by resisting it you can resist all of its possible applications because you resist where the ability originated from not because you resist all its application. but doesn't mean you can resist the application of those abilities that is no longer done through reality-warping. so she's not getting through plot manipulation.
in a sense, they would if the person is a smurf without resistance to it or don't have abilities that would save them from it like regeneration and immortality. since the person might not be able to kill them due to it but could incap someone by endlessly messing up the plot that doesn't affect causality, law, information, fate and such
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Well, assuming that she indeed could be affected by a lower d plot manip, said plot manip it's passive? Because her charm/mind and law hax are passive, also, in the case that it's indeed passive wouldn't he still be affected by the charm and thus wouldn't want to do anything bad with the plot manip?
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if it's one character is enough to achieve all things from said civilization can do it should be fine. but if somehow them being collective is what gives them that then that's a different story imo
not sure about it being passive I'm just explaining how reality-warping resistance could not translate to application resistance.
if it's passive I don't really see how The Akashic records Plot would work if it's not passive too. and yeah the charm would pretty much affect him badly enough.
Not really familiar with vampire D but a match could be made to see
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I seriously believe it would be a big stomp considering that at most D only have a possible way to incap with the only thing that she don't resist making a plot that somehow do something in a way that don't inply to use the things she resist.
Edit: I also recalled that also have resistance to Higher-Dimensional Manipulation, which make me ask even futher how the plot manip it's supposed to affect her but well.
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