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Kirby Cosmology Upgrade Part 2

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Also, why exactly does no one scale to the (now accepted) Low 1-C multiverse, when we literally have stuff from Magolor and Void Termina that should let them scale?
 
Eseseso said:
Also, why exactly does no one scale to the (now accepted) Low 1-C multiverse, when we literally have stuff from Magolor and Void Termina that should let them scale?
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Yeah i think once the 2-C upgrade is through this would be possible.
 
I am neutral but I guess the dimension being Low 1-C could be valid, from the dimensional superiority statement.
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I feel like Kirby shouldn't be outright low 1-C but according with just the current revisions he'd be

High 6-A | 4-A, likely 2-C, possibly low 1-C | At least 4-A, likely 3-C to 2-C, possibly low 1-C
 
Slow down my guy. Rushing to a tier upgrade is only gonna make things more controversial than they already are.
 
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If/When Kirby is a Low 1-C, I am so making VS debates between him and Low 1-C Marvel characters!
 
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I am neutral but I guess the dimension being Low 1-C could be valid, from the dimensional superiority statement.
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Just so your stance is clear, do you agree with a "Possibly", a "Likely" or are you just neutral and leaning towards agreement?
 
Peptocoptr27 said:
In this official Tweet, Another Dimension is referred to as another world which exceeds/surpasses (超えて) time and dimensions (次元).
"超えて" always refers to a superiority, unlike "越える" which can simply mean residing outside of something
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That scan, as far as I see, is the only one that can solidly support a Low 1-C rating in there. I believe I've already talked about how, even in the most generous of interpretations, "exceeding space and time" can be done as a 4-dimensional object. Reason is that, if you have the same amount of dimensions as a timeline, you obviously can't exist inside of the spatial subset where its inhabitants live (One dimension lower than the full continuum), and thus would be relegated into directly inhabiting its hypervolume or existing outside of it, relative to it in the same way you exist relative to other 3-dimensional objects around you.

This scan, meanwhile, at least gives the suggestion that Another Dimension exceeds the axes themselves, so it's serviceable as the main meat of the argument.

Granted, I should note that I'm very neutral on this matter, otherwise. I don't know nor am particularly familiar with the context of the verse, and if I remember correctly, we've rejected similar statements that used this same kanji in the past (Medaka Box is the case that immediately comes to mind, at the moment), so, while what you said sounds sensible at a glance, I'd want some third-party confirmation on it.
 
Personally I disagree, because while I says it exceeds/surpasses Time and Dimensions, the knowledge I have as a Kirby fan has it that it does not give any information to how it does so. The Tiering system requires not just exceeding dimensions, but exceeding them to a certain qualitative degree. Meanwhile the Another Dimension only has the above tweet talking about it exceeding dimensions and no explanation given beyond that.

Basically I disagree because it doesn't give enough of an explanation of how greatly it exceeds dimensions and many over Verses have been denied Tier 1 because they also don't give such details.
 
Finally! We're back on track
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That scan, as far as I see, is the only one that can solidly support a Low 1-C rating in there. I believe I've already talked about how, even in the most generous of interpretations, "exceeding space and time" can be done as a 4-dimensional object. Reason is that, if you have the same amount of dimensions as a timeline, you obviously can't exist inside of the spatial subset where its inhabitants live (One dimension lower than the full continuum), and thus would be relegated into directly inhabiting its hypervolume or existing outside of it, relative to it in the same way you exist relative to other 3-dimensional objects around you.

This scan, meanwhile, at least gives the suggestion that Another Dimension exceeds the axes themselves, so it's serviceable as the main meat of the argument.
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Why would one solidly Low 1-C scan not be enough for a Low 1-C ranking? It's not like it can be deemed an outlier since this is a cosmology we're talking about. Also, what do you think of the secondary evidence? Stuff like AD containing the other dimensions of the cosmology within itself, perceiving them as flat, fading projections and being referred to as "the space between dimensions" (which is the 5th dimension according to the speed page). Most of that would just be tier 2 stuff by itself, but within this context, they add a lot of credibility to the main argument.
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Personally I disagree, because while I says it exceeds/surpasses Time and Dimensions, the knowledge I have as a Kirby fan has it that it does not give any information to how it does so. The Tiering system requires not just exceeding dimensions, but exceeding them to a certain qualitative degree. Meanwhile the Another Dimension only has the above tweet talking about it exceeding dimensions and no explanation given beyond that.

Basically I disagree because it doesn't give enough of an explanation of how greatly it exceeds dimensions and many over Verses have been denied Tier 1 because they also don't give such details.
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I already went over how it exceeds the very dimensional axes of those dimensions. That's the big difference here, and the wording is very blatant about it. That kind of superiority is always qualitative, and the final paragraph of the FAQ supports it
 
even if this turns out to not qualify then would it be possible to at least add higher dimensional manipulation for busting open a higher than 4D multiverse?
 
There are bigger implications to AD being a 4D space than that, but this cosmology revision still hasn't properly been refuted in any way, so let's stay on topic. I can understand your eagerness to scale this revision to the characters in any way possible, but still.
 
Peptocoptr27 said:
There are bigger implications to AD being a 4D space than that, but this cosmology revision still hasn't properly been refuted in any way, so let's stay on topic. I can understand your eagerness to scale this revision to the characters in any way possible, but still.
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Yes yes, i am just trying to get as much profit as possible
 
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