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Attack on Titan revisions (a massive one)

I looked at the AOT pages, and they look, kinda dull, they have so much more potential. They lack powers & abilities which should be added, and I'm gonna talk about their tiers a little bit. So I'm just going to critic, review, and say what I think should change with the pages.

Powers & Abilities:

Eren Yeager:

Human:

- Social Influencing (Eren has influenced multiple people, changing their views and encouraging him to fight. Notably, the 104th, Jean, and as a disguised soldier in Marley he encourages Falco, gaining his trust while manipulating and tricking him to send letters to the Survey Corps. He persuades Ymir, who has been a slave for 2000 years, to finally make her own choice)

- Precognition (The Attack Titan's latent ability is that its users can peer through memories of the future. When Eren sees Grisha’s initial confrontation with the Reiss family, he also sees the future version of himself through them, including memories of key events yet to come.)

- Clairvoyance (Can see the past in his dreams through the memories of the Attack Titan's previous inheritors. Like all inheritors of the Nine Titans, its power allows the current user to view the memories of the previous holders, Eren has viewed his father's memories multiple times, such as his entire life in Marley, killing the Royal Family as the Attack Titan, how he passed on both the Founding and Attack Titan to Eren, Grisha confronting and begging them beforehand, sees a quick flash of Faye’s dead body)

- Telepathy (Is able to send his own memories to the previous inheritors of the Attack Titan, as stated by Zeke. Uses this ability to send Kruger memories of Mikasa and Armin, and showed Grisha the bits of his memories that would serve as convenient for his plan, manipulating his father to take the Founder through them)

- Time Travel or Clairvoyance (Can move back and forth freely through time, as he travelled through tangible points in history and interacted with Grisha from the past)

- Limited Mind Manipulation (Can control Titans but only if he is in contact with someone who possesses royal blood)

- [Additional Context] Martial Arts (Eren is known for being one of the best martial artists in the series. During his time in the cadet corps learning hand-to-hand combat was regular and Annie taught him many of her martial art skills, Eren then excelled in hand-to-hand combat, ranking the first place in the cadet corps)


Pre-Timeskip Titan

  • Martial Arts. Why is it not there?
  • Immortality (Type 3) I don't understand. How do you even get this ability? Eren has High-Mid regeneration, doesn't have it, and I have seen some profiles with High-Low and Low-Mid regeneration and yet they have this.
  • Body Control (Can harden parts of his skin which can be used to make more powerful attacks and make his skin more durable. Able to create web of hardened pillars from his body, which he uses to seal up the Chapel's caverns with his hardening ability to protect his comrades from its collapse, and the Wall Maria gate). Eren cannot change the bodies of Eldians, he isn't royal blood, he cannot use the full power of Founding Titan so Biological Manipulation is not valid, Body Control seems better for those abilities
  • Resistance to Heat Manipulation (Withstood the heat from Rod Reiss's titan. Unaffected by Colossal Titan's steam)

Post-Timeskip Titan
  • Regeneration (High Mid). Eren doesn't have Mid-High regeneration, he still is in the nape, he isn't in the underground through a tether
  • Biological Manipulation (Stated that he is fully capable of using War Hammer Titan's abilities to leave his prison whenever he wants no matter how tough and deep the underground cell was. Later does so, sealing his escape route in the process). Eren still cannot change the bodies of Eldians btw

Zeke Yeager
Human:


Titan:
  • Mind Manipulation (Zeke's Beast Titan is able to exercise some control over Pure Titans that he created through his screams. The Beast Titan is able to direct the actions of Pure Titans and can command them to move, resist the urge to eat humans, and stay in place. Titans under Zeke's control are even able to function using only moonlight without falling into fatigue)
  • Body Control (Can harden parts of his skin which can be used to make more powerful attacks and make his skin more durable.)

Armin Arlert/Bertolt Hoover (Colossal)

- [Additional Context] Steam and Heat Manipulation (Colossal Titan can emit steam which usually as hot as boiling water. Colossal Titan can also create a large heat blast which is hot enough to vaporize naval ships and human bodies completely)

- Lower Regeneration. Have you ever seen Colossal Titan regenerate fast as Attack Titan for example? Colossal Titan regenerates slowly due to its size. Give Colossal Low-Mid regen

Reiner Braun (Armored)


  • Martial Arts. As I explained with Eren before
  • Immortality (Type 3)
  • Body Control (Can harden parts of his skin which can be used to make more powerful attacks and make his skin more durable), replace Biological Manipulation.
  • Limited Fire Breath (Non-combat applicable; Armored Titan can breath fire from its mouth but only when it overheats, as seen after it broke through Shiganshina gate)
  • Resistance to Heat Manipulation (Armored Titan is completely unaffected by Colossal Titan's steam. It also survived Bertolt's heat blast without any scratch and also was stated by Pieck to be able to survive Armin's heat blast as well)
  • - Lower Regeneration. Have you ever seen the Armored Titan regenerate fast as Attack Titan for example? Armored Titan regenerates slowly due to its armor. Give it Low-Mid regen as well.

Annie Leonhart (Female)
- Martial Arts. As I explained with Eren before

- Immortality (Type 3)
- Body Control (Can harden parts of her skin which can be used to make more powerful attacks and make her skin more durable), replace Biological Manipulation.

Porco Galliard/Ymir (Jaws)
- Acrobatics (Those who hold the power of the Jaw Titan demonstrate significant amounts of speed and agility in their Titan form. They can even move fast enough to catch another one of the Nine Titans off guard. Though the Jaw Titan is relatively small and weak, its mobility excels in terrain such as Titan Forests.
Martial Arts. As I explained with Eren before

Immortality (Type 3)

Pieck Finger (Titan)
Why does it have Steam Manipulation? Remove that.
And speed "Rescued Zeke from Levi before the latter was able to react" Levi has Hypersonic+ reactions so this makes Pieck Hypersonic+ as well?

- Immortality (Type 3)

Ymir Fritz
  • Literally every ability from the nine titans. She possesses all nine of them.
  • Immortality (Types 3, 7, 8; Continued to exist after death. Gave birth to an undying body, escaped to paths that is free of death)
  • Limited Curse Manipuation (Every Titan shifter dies after 13 years of receiving said power, this is known as "Curse of Ymir")
Titans (Race)
- Underwater Breathing (Type 2), Titans are not able to drown, since the only way to kill them is to cut or destroy their nape. And when Eren started the rumbling, the colossal titans swimmed underwater without the need for air.

Mikasa/Levi Ackerman
- Resistance to Biological Manipulation, replace Transformation. What even is a resistance to transformation. It doesn't exist.

Every Titan shifter
- Limited Clairvoyance (Like all inheritors of the Nine Titans, its power allows the current user to view the memories of the previous holders)

Literally every character who uses 3DM Gear
- Limited Flight. Obviously?


Tierings
Ymir Fritz

At least 8-A (It is stated that no titan can possess more power than her, which should make her far superior to Rod Reiss and Colossal Titan.), At least High 7-C, possibly Low 2-C via creation (Can create millions of Colossal Titans. Possibly created the dimension of paths which transcends physical space and is a world of boundless time. Besides, Paths is a separate universe due to it having a different flow of time, which is proven later when Eren transforms a mere moment after Zeke captures his disembodied head in the mortal realm while in Paths, Zeke has mentioned it has felt like years, and it's evident as Zeke has appeared to have aged physically in his time there.) Ymir also dwarfs both Reiss and Colossal in size and Ymir should scale to Colossal anyway since she possesses its power.

Karl Fritz
At least 8-C (As a Titan shfter, he should be superior to pure titans), At least High 7-C via creation (Can create millions of Colossal Titans)

Eren Yeager (Founding)
8-B (Scales to at least 7 Wall Titans through size alone)
 
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I created a new thread because my previous thread turned into another person thread which was arguing about 8-B and 7-C titans.
 
Time Travel (Can move back and forth freely through time, as he travelled through tangible points in history and interacted with Grisha from the past)
He was not time travelling here, just still going through memories

Ymir Fritz
At least 8-A (It is stated that no titan can possess more power than her, which should make her far superior to Rod Reiss and Colossal Titan.), At least High 7-C, possibly Low 2-C via creation (Can create millions of Colossal Titans. Possibly created the dimension of paths which transcends physical space and is a world of boundless time. Besides, Paths is a separate universe due to it having a different flow of time, which is proven later when Eren transforms a mere moment after Zeke captures his disembodied head in the mortal realm while in Paths, Zeke has mentioned it has felt like years, and it's evident as Zeke has appeared to have aged physically in his time there.) Ymir also dwarfs both Reiss and Colossal in size and Ymir should scale to Colossal anyway since she possesses its power.
Disagree on the low 2C, time flowing slower does not mean it is a different timeline and also the physical space they were talking about means physical body as only souls and the likes can exist at the coordinate
 
He was not time travelling here, just still going through memories


Disagree on the low 2C, time flowing slower does not mean it is a different timeline and also the physical space they were talking about means physical body as only souls and the likes can exist at the coordinate
I guess so.
 
He was not time travelling here, just still going through memories


Disagree on the low 2C, time flowing slower does not mean it is a different timeline and also the physical space they were talking about means physical body as only souls and the likes can exist at the coordinate
If its not time traveling and just going through memories, it would be supporting evidence for Clairvoyance, no? This would give Zeke clairvoyance instead of time travel
 
Afaik, you kinda also need to prove it's universal in size in order to get Low 2-C. We don't really have evidence of that. But we do have a starry sky so 4-A lol
 
If its not time traveling and just going through memories, it would be supporting evidence for Clairvoyance, no? This would give Zeke clairvoyance instead of time travel
Yes it would be clairvoyance
Afaik, you kinda also need to prove it's universal in size in order to get Low 2-C. We don't really have evidence of that. But we do have a starry sky so 4-A lol
What was created was a mental plane not exactly a physical space
 
I also disagree with this, considering Eren got killed by an explosion that was definitely not 8-B. And I think it's really iffy to multiply something like this. Like that would be 8-A and not 8-B
No? It was Armin's Colossal Titan explosion which is rated as High 7-C on this wiki
 
No? It was Armin's Colossal Titan explosion which is rated as High 7-C on this wiki
Actually my ba. i was misremembering things and thought he was killed by the dinamite. But still. I don't think you can just multiply like that. Plus they were convinced that the dinamite was enough to harm Eren. And Eren seemed to see the Dinamite as a threat, considering the effort he made to keep that dinamite away from him.
 
Actually my ba. i was misremembering things and thought he was killed by the dinamite. But still. I don't think you can just multiply like that. Plus they were convinced that the dinamite was enough to harm Eren. And Eren seemed to see the Dinamite as a threat, considering the effort he made to keep that dinamite away from him.
I'm not remembering myself. When did Eren see a dynamite as a threat.
 
He actively tried to prevent the cast from activating dynamite on him? If he knew the dynamite couldn't harm him, why would he send an army of titan shifters after them? He even activated the Warhammer titan to prevent Pieck from activating the Dynamite.
 
He actively tried to prevent the cast from activating dynamite on him? If he knew the dynamite couldn't harm him, why would he send an army of titan shifters after them? He even activated the Warhammer titan to prevent Pieck from activating the Dynamite.
What's stopping that dynamite from being 8-B? I mean they have 8-B swords...
 
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Type 7 Immortality?
 
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Tierings
Ymir Fritz

At least 8-A (It is stated that no titan can possess more power than her, which should make her far superior to Rod Reiss and Colossal Titan.), At least High 7-C, possibly Low 2-C via creation (Can create millions of Colossal Titans. Possibly created the dimension of paths which transcends physical space and is a world of boundless time. Besides, Paths is a separate universe due to it having a different flow of time, which is proven later when Eren transforms a mere moment after Zeke captures his disembodied head in the mortal realm while in Paths, Zeke has mentioned it has felt like years, and it's evident as Zeke has appeared to have aged physically in his time there.) Ymir also dwarfs both Reiss and Colossal in size and Ymir should scale to Colossal anyway since she possesses its power.
lol....

the paths are metaphysical with 0 proofs of being a separate spatiotemporal continuity
 
that's not type 9

disagree with lower regeneration, it doesn't work based on how fast they can regenerate

agree with the rest
Why are there pages like Supreme Deity from Seven Deadly Sins having Regeneration (At least Low-High, Low-Godly over time) OVERTIME
 
I agree with the OP. Low 2-C? I’ll wait to see what others think.
others think that it's wrong

paths are located in the subconscious of the founder

it's not universal sized so if it was a dimension it's 4A because of starry sky

it's not a separate timeline, that's baseless

ymir doesn't scale, she didn't create the paths

yeah, no.
 
If it's metaphysical then I disagree. However I still agree with time travel because Eren did indeed alter the past.
 
everything checks out except the low 2-c one since it needs more proof/statements and evidence

but from what I know the path is vague enough as it is to be considered that.

i agree with the exception to low 2-C

the thing about attack titans time travel and precog is a bit wonky but yeah he was able to affect the past with the attack titan it could be a very limited time travel since he is constrained to only attack titan host from previous to future host and I'm pretty sure the scan is when Zeke was showing him the past of their father through the path which is atm mostly a mental plane
but that's kinda not battle applicable anyway.

The Precog one with clairvoyance checks out
 
Wait could Ymir also have Type 8 Immortality? Reliant on Paths to continue to live after death.
I'm pretty sure its more of a type 8 than 9 at all

it's not like she is on a higher plane of existence, he just transcended death and escaped it via paths which is very much type 8
 
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