Then you're wrong. Hakai destroys body and soul as one whole across multiple timelines (unless prevented by time ring) The quincies just eradicate spiritual forms which normal ki can replicate.
Haha now they are afraid of spirit fission when Ichigo only has one RC feat in the series. I think I'll enjoy my stay here
Appealing to popularity? lol Alright, I'll let you off the hook. You obviously don't want to debate the facts
lmao i fail to see how erasing body and soul is better than just Soul, as Soul is more special than body by default
you clearly dont know how the wiki rules works after all, it has a count in all matches, if people is going to debate without using the wiki ratings, they do it in discord
ur trolling, right?
again that one time was an earlier ichigo who was unable to use his bankai properly
....vs thread are decided via votes, u seriously are very new here
The more he talks the more I think he is
I get that. So when does he soul crush after that? Admittedly my memory of Bleach is a little spotty. Show me him soul crushing someone other than himself please
Faulty argument, the fact he already shows soul crush +that the whole cast of characters can do soul crush already established they have soul crush
Seems pretty common in vs community to deem another person a troll for differing opinions. So sad.
Again stalling on the evidence. I have no reason to believe that Vegeta doesn't stomp here. You just expect people to take your word for things and if they don't they are a troll lol
voting is literally apart of the vs match rules here
Na, u are just considered a troll when u make such faulty arguments
What does voting have to do with calling others trolls?
It is not faulty to request evidence. So I will reiterate, Ichigo's only RC feat to my knowledge is soul crushing himself. While I'm aware that was early in the series, your failure to produce other instances of him effectively using it has led me to believe they don't exist. Moreover, RC in itself has proven to be quite the joke if humans can withstand transcendent beings.
How well Ichigo is written as a character has nothing to do with whether or not he could beat Vegeta in a fight. Sure, he may be a brick, but he's a brick that soul crushes Vegeta on sight passively.
He's a brick that's doing no such thing as neither of you can prove he's remotely capable of such. This wall of text is no different. It does not matter if it's passive if it's ineffective. By your own description of it, it would fail given Chi is literally Spirit, and he has vastly more quantity of it lol Vegeta clobbers him.
Ki doesn't give resistance to soul manipulation.
Well you didn't specify resistance as the sole countering method? You said having strong reiatsu which is literally just the exertion of one's spirit energy? Vegeta's Chi or Spirit or whatever you want to call it dwarfs Ichigo's. So by this logic of yours it won't work.
considering everything on bleach has a soul even atoms, billions dont seem all that impressive
Wtf? Atoms... that makes no sense but whatever. I'm going to watch bleach now bye.
yea, basically everything on bleach has a soul
Having strong Reiatsu of your own allows you to resist Reiatsu Crush, my dude. And Vegeta's ki doesn't give him resistance to soul hax. Even with verse equalization, Vegeta still gets crushed to oblivion.
I literally just explained to you what Reiatsu is. It's just the exertion of spirit energy, which Vegeta has. So once again, by your own logic, he's negging it. Moreover, regular attacks in DB can damage souls, as shown by the numerous bouts they have had with dead people. Vegeta is negging RC and stomping the life out of strawberry. Deal with it.
This isn't how verse equalization works. Just cause Reiatsu gives resistance to soul manip doesn't mean Vegeta is going to get that resistance by virtue of having a lot of ki when it's equalized. This is already mentioned in the verse equalization section in the SBA page as follows:
Yes he is. I don't care about upgrades that constantly change on a forum (which in itself makes it questionable when the series in question has long concluded) Only manga evidence, which dictate Ichigo would sooner crush himself than Vegeta. And I'm tired of repeating myself, soul manip? Ichigo has not manipulated anyone's soul, period. Imagine harping on and on about someone needing resistances for something he won't have to do deal with?
It really doesn't matter whether you care or not. Here we debate based on profiles and that alone. If his ratings change cool, but as of now Ichigo has the ap advantage here.
Completely false. That was Soul Soceity Arc Ichigo who had just achieved bankai to the point where he could not even master it and control his own reiatsu. EOS Ichigo is a whole different beast altogether.
Literally every single attack in Bleach attacks the soul lmao. It's right in the name of their swords Zanpakuto meaning Soul cutter. Anyone with basic knowledge on Bleach should know this. Every single opponent Ichigo has fought were souls/konpaku/spiritual beings. So saying Ichigo can't attack or hurt souls is the equivalent of me saying the sky is not blue.
Doesn't matter. Ichigo's soul has better resistance so Vegeta's "supposed" soul attacks aren't doing anything. To add on the one the ap advantage is in Ichigo's favour here so no Vegeta isn't doing shit here. And from what I am seeing this isn't listed anywhere on Vegeta's profiles so there ya go. To add on RC is passive so which is greater than attacks requiring action/movement/thought.
Well continue to debate your made up profiles while I continue to cite canon sources? No one's stopping you guy. At the end of the day, manga>any of you so I'm good.
