Pain's CT is 15 gigatons vs Shukaku scaling to 26 gigatons. There's no real proof that Obito's CT is superior, especially given his inferior chakra due to being a non-Uzumaki. Also the Armored Susanoo managed to withstand a 100% Kurama Bijuudama, so I think it'll be fine.
I honestly don't even think he'll use Chibaku Tensei, I was just listing Rinnegan Powers. My real question is what's stopping Obito from just walking through the Susano'o with Kamui, Absorbing the Susano'o with his Rinnegan or just pulling Madara out of it with Universal Pull and then ******* him up?
When he sees Obito approaching he'll attack and when he sees Obito pass through it he'll know something is up and back away. Universal pull may pull the Susanoo along with him, and absorbing will require him to get close without Madara stopping him.
That literally doesn't prove Jack Shit. They're at High 7-A only, I'm just not sure you can restrict a Durability Rating.
The Perfect Susano'o is restricted dude, due to the High 7-A limitation. I was telling them that he can use the lower stages because they don't put him in a different tier.....
Their versions are High 7-A, but it doesn't say they can't use jutsu beyond that, just that the PS is restricted. The Armored Susanoo is far greater than Madara's regular strength. Afterall it withstood this and should have comparable AP to Dura
I know that now, but you'd be surprised at how many people think Alive Madara doesn't have the PS and only gained that as an Edo, and they think the Majestic Attire is just the Armored Susanoo.
When an OP restricts a character to a certain tier, it typically means that they can't use abilities or techniques that would put them outside of said tier, unless otherwise specified. From my personal experience at least.
Technically, this would only be a High 6-C feat, anyway, since that's where Kurama is sitting at right now.The Armored Susanoo is far greater than Madara's regular strength. Afterall it withstood this and should have comparable AP to Dura
It's for the Perfect Susano'o only, I don't know who the hell changed it to "Susanoo" and removed the apostrophe. Actually, nvm, I know who it is lol. It should definitely be changed back, I'll ask some staff to do it later.
This is why people shouldn't have opinions.
Well that sounds like it should be fixed, otherwise Madara has literally 0 wincons and this can't be added.
I don't think matches where abilities get restricted are added, anyway. But yes, this is kinda stompish due to Kamui being Kamui.
Yeah, definitely. I never said otherwise.
It happens XD. The thread has died in general, so maybe a good ol' bump is in order.I still don't know why one of my big argumentative comments on that hasn't been adressed by anyone
I thought tier bumping abilities could be restricted. And I wouldn't say just having kamui makes it a stomp. After all, this exact same battle took place but with Obito having the Bijuu against the other founder and Hashirama won. Sure the wood golem and SS weren't restricted, but neither of those are particularly helpful against kamui.
Base to base, I think Hashirama would lose as well tbh. But hey, maybe that's just me lol.
He had access to SM, which didn't allow him to completely overpower Madara, just stalemate him.
I'm talking about Obito vs Hashirama.
I know, I assume you meant Base Hashirama vs Obito Hashirama would lose, and I was saying that's irrelevant because SM Hashirama=>EMS Madara>Base Hashirama.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Why would AP matter at all when all of Obito's win cons wouldn't really involve it?
Madara's wincons involve AP.
I think so
