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Nil vs Eru Iluvatar

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Eru Ilúvatar

Eru Ilúvatar, also known as the One, is the supreme being of J.R.R. Tolkien's Legendarium and, as Tolkien understood Eru not as a "fictional deity" but as a name in a fictional language for the actual monotheistic God, is the same God that is referred to in all of Tolkien's writings. He is the...
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Nil (Her Tears Were My Light)

Nil is the nothing that existed before something. Tier: 2-C Name: Nil Origin: Her Tears Were My Light Age: Immeasurable; Nil predates Time itself, which only began to exist when she willed it to be so Gender: Female Classification: Embodiment of Nothingness Powers and Abilities: Superhuman...
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Nil:

Eru:

Saitama slaps both (incon):
 
Wanna know , her concept manip is 2-C ? , I saw on profile she erase time and space but neither of them are 2-C.
 
Lapsad said:
Wanna know , her concept manip is 2-C ? , I saw on profile she erase time and space but neither of them are 2-C.
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Also, Nil lacks concepts, I dont think that Iluvatar concept hax will work on her, unless someone send proofs
 
Eru doesn't have NEP2 interaction on his page, even if he might iirc so would his hax even affect Nil?
 
Well can Eru even affect Nil since he doesn't even have NEP2 interaction on his page. If he can affect her, he has passive Fear Manip/Empathic Manip that he has via having the powers of the Ainur. Also strong fate manip/reality warping. If not, stomp.
 
Naitodesu said:
Well can Eru even affect Nil since he doesn't even have NEP2 interaction on his page. If he can affect her, he has passive Fear Manip/Empathic Manip that he has via having the powers of the Ainur. If not, stomp.
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Well, I don't think that Eru can affect Nil, because Nil lacks Concepts (type 2), about stomp, I made this thread to see if Nil could be in the place of Eru in the strongest 2-C non smurfs
 
Bernkastelll said:
Concept hax neg dura, there isnt such a thing like ''the concept works in 2-C, so, its stronger than Low 2-C''
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No , its non-sense dura is not a factor here from your logic low-2C characters who's resisth concept should also resisth 2-A concept attack ? , I think it not make sense.

To be more understand concept type 2 is govern entire reallity , reallity in this case mean universe or multiverse , this is a reason behind " work on 2-C".
 
Well until NEP 2 interaction, Eru loses imo. At least until the profiles are given a due update. Or if someone can clarify the limits of her NEP2 keeping her unaffected.
 
Lapsad said:
No , its non-sense dura is not a factor here from your logic low-2C characters who's resisth concept should also resisth 2-A concept attack ? , I think it not make sense.
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Yeah? it all comes down to Concept Hax, its the same argument of Soul hax affecting 2-B and 2-C, the only thing that matter is the resistance to Soul Hax, not the tier of the character
 
Bernkastelll said:
Yeah? it all comes down to Concept Hax, its the same argument of Soul hax affecting 2-B and 2-C, the only thing that matter is the resistance to Soul Hax, not the tier of the character
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Who talking about tier ? , I'm talking about concept hax which nill can effect on multiverse ? , if not then eru can resisth her concept hax.

For eru feat
  • he has passive precog
  • power null to prevent her absorb , concept , void.

And just hard to kill does't mean you're stronger.
 
Bernkastelll said:
If he doesnt resist Conceptual/Void Absorption, he aint resist that

Show proofs of it affecting NEP 2
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Do you understand ? , He has passive precog which should let him know what he should do , he can nullify void , absorbtion , concept.

Unneccessary she is nep only her body not her attack , unless you show.
 
Lapsad said:
Do you understand ? , He has passive precog which should let him know what he should do , he can nullify void , absorbtion , concept.
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Still no feats to affect NEP 2
Lapsad said:
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Unneccessary she is nep only her body not her attack , unless you show.
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Do u understand that she doesnt have attacks right? She can affect concepts because her nothingness itself can predate it, its not something that he can "dodge", its just her nature that does it
 
Bernkastelll said:
Still no feats to affect NEP 2

Do u understand that she doesnt have attacks right? She can affect concepts because her nothingness itself can predate it, its not something that he can "dodge", its just her nature that does it
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I can explain better later, i am a bit busy for now, i will come back soon
 
Bernkastelll said:
Still no feats to affect NEP 2

Do u understand that she doesnt have attacks right? She can affect concepts because her nothingness itself can predate it, its not something that he can "dodge", its just her nature that does it
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No matter cuz he can null her abilities it not neccessary to touch her body.

Sorry i can't understand your logic , what do you mean doesnt have attack even you mention that she can affect concept , the last reason make me headache eru don't need to dodge he can nullify power at the fight start.
 
Lapsad said:
No matter cuz he can null her abilities it not neccessary to touch her body.
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Dude, he can't nullify her ''abilities'', he would need to nullify her
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what do you mean doesnt have attack even you mention that she can affect concept , the last reason make me headache eru don't need to dodge he can nullify power at the fight start.
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Nil is the nothingness, the Nothingness (nil) can create, erase/absorb concepts just by being present, he can't nullify Nil.
 
Bernkastelll said:
Dude, he can't nullify her abilities, he would need to nullify her

Nil is the nothingness, the Nothingness (nil) can create, erase/absorb concepts just by being present, he can't nullify Nil.
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From what your told i don't see why he need to nullify her , physiology and power are separating.
 
Nil absorbs and erases stuff by virtue of her existence, so Eru will not powernull those since they are tied to her being, aka NEP2.
 
My current point of view is that Nil could take place 2th in the 2-C Non Smurf
 
Bernkastelll said:
The dude there have High-Godly, but perhaps I will throw Nil against him to at least try to force a Incon
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Hmmm, now that I see "The Dawn Machine" can affect NEP2 beigns, then I don't think Nil has a chance here.
 
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