nice now resorting to fallacies
spiritual energy it literally is meant to sense haki in there to see it
again it would be good if they showed a connection but nope
they are literally shooting out of him while still inside of him
Not even fully together another example is brook who was kind of ball shaped when he died
Scans?
Nothing there is a fallacy, learn what a Fallacy means you dunce. And you haven't debunked anything either mr "Imma just say no and also ignore factual evidence."
Kenbunshoku Haki isn't meant to sense Haki??? Bro what are you even saying? And no, if Rayleigh meant to say "sense Haki" he would have said that instead of saying "spiritual energy", Haki is never differed to as "spiritual" in the manga.
Can't just say nope to everything buddy ol pal, this is a Canon rule we know. I'm sorry but your own personal headcanon means jack shit whenever we have literal statements and showings to proof otherwise.
Meaning he's the one interacting with the outside world, again it doesn't take a genius to realize this. Damn trying to explain basic logic to you is like explaining physics to a ******* tree.
I apologize, but this user has been in a plethora of the recent One Piece threads declining everything and derailing the arguments at hand, whether it's the Buso thread, the Douglass Bullet Thread, any that involves Content Revision, he consistently does this.
the scans get debunked then I don’t need scans
insulting someone as part of your argument is a fallacy and your scand were debunked
oh so you guys are contradicting yourselves since the creator of the thread thinks haki is spiritual
Hypocritical to say the least.
prove Ussop someone who just awakened it and had no idea what it was described what he saw as spirits actually saw spirit a Experienced user would be a viable source someone who just got it and doesn’t even know what it is isn’t reliable
Prove he's wrong about his own ability.
He literally didn’t confirm it he just thought that he didn’t think about it and said yeah those are their spirits no he thought it on his own again use someone who actually knows how the power works
Lol can't even read I said that about Ussop not Rayleigh
We just got supporting evidence and you said no
Ussop's statement is literally supportive evidence. Also I can read much, much better than you can rest assured unlike you I can form coherent sentences.
Then debunk it, and actually prove it with statements or evidence.
I actually agree with some of it
And again with the insults Ussops statement is not supporting evidence he literally knows nothing about the power itself he just awakened it and had no explanations on it to him he didn't elaborate he just said he saw their spirit which is very vague when spirit can mean souls, fighting spirit/will and other things
1-2 pieces of evidence are more than enough if there's nothing to contradict them, which there isn't in this case.
Prove to me Ussop doesn't know about Kenbunshoku Haki whenever he's literally on a crew where people use it left and right. He stated he saw their spirits, so does Rayleigh so its supportive.
Than make valid arguments (with evidence) rather than just disagreeing just to disagree.
He literally doesn't know about it he awakened it yet he was clueless on what it was
its just a example of what it could be spiritual energy it shows how many hoops you need to jump through to justify it on its own is not enough to get anything look at chakra spiritual energy yet people who can see it get nothing
I'm speaking from experience.
Cause Chakra is specifically shown to be visible to normal people
Well, that's a massive false equivalency since they're not trying to get sight based ESP, but sensory based ESP.
Your comparing something that was fought to the end with dozens of pieces of evidence to something that has one statement
Rayleigh says that they see spiritual energy.
I think so
Looking at it, I see the flaws in it, and I can concede on the dimensional sensing.
