One Touch Win! Obito Uchiha vs AFO Tomura Shigaraki

[Youtd]

to me it seems like their's a 50/50 chance he would genjutsu twice. he either thinks genjutsu doesn't work on shigaraki or figures out that someone is possessing shigaraki and genjutsu the thing possessing shigaraki aka AFO

 

[Arcker123]

Masked man obito is the one who fought konan right?

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

AOE doesn’t matter, Kamui. He Genjutsu’s Shigaraki, AFO comes out, he Genjutsu’s both.

Obito can very much get tagged when he’s attempting to attack Shigaraki and suddenly gets blasted by a large air blast blasting out of Shigaraki.

 

[Youtd]

We don't even know if this version of Obito has a spare Sharingan at this point.

So I doubt Obito would throw away the only eye we know he has for a shot at Izanagi.

i believe he would use it rather then dying if he dies he can't go through with with his plans

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Masked man obito is the one who fought konan right?

OP specifies one that fought Minato

 

[Rocker1189]

genjutsu would work the first time, obito could use it on the leader of the blood mist viallge even with a tailed beast in him and it worked.

 

[Youtd]

Obito can very much get tagged when he’s attempting to attack Shigaraki and suddenly gets blasted by a large air blast blasting out of Shigaraki.

well if he tries to attack Obito physically instead of using the shigarakis wave then Obito could probably dodge with analytical prediction and Kamui to his other dimension and come up with a strategy.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

well if he tries to attack Obito physically instead of using the shigarakis wave then Obito could probably dodge with analytical prediction and Kamui to his other dimension and come up with a strategy.

I don’t get how he’s predicting a shockwave from Shigaraki’s palm coming from nowhere there’s also the fact AFOoght start flying

 

[Youtd]

genjutsu would work the first time, obito could use it on the leader of the blood mist viallge even with a tailed beast in him and it worked.

oh this does bring up an interesting question did obito mind hax the leader and the person tailed beast inside of him cause he might not have to do double genjutsu an mindhax both shigaraki and AFO although he doesn't have knowledge that their is someone possessing shigaraki

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Obito can very much get tagged when he’s attempting to attack Shigaraki and suddenly gets blasted by a large air blast blasting out of Shigaraki.

Are you intentionally ignoring Kamui exists, when Obito can activate it in a split second? He phased through Minato’s kunai whilst running.

isn’t the explanation for it that it alters the targets chakra flow?

Yes. However, the Infinite Tsukuyomi worked on random cats, and the Tailed Beasts are literally just raw chakra, they don’t have a flow.

Why would he try a move that’s already failed?

If Obito notices a clear and obviously change in experience and personality after Shiggy is incapped, I see no reason why he wouldn’t do it again.

 

[Youtd]

I don’t get how he’s predicting a shockwave from Shigaraki’s palm coming from nowhere there’s also the fact AFOoght start flying

yeah I meant if he tries to tag physically instead of using the shockwave Obito will dodge

 

[Youtd]

agreed, unless shigaraki decays goes for his head so he doesn't have the chance to use Kamui but shigaraki usually goes for the hands and even if he did go for the head his decay is still slow so i think Obito could think to use Kamui before the decay finishes him off

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Are you intentionally ignoring Kamui exists, when Obito can activate it in a split second? He phased through Minato’s kunai whilst running.

Yes. However, the Infinite Tsukuyomi worked on random cats, and the Tailed Beasts are literally just raw chakra, they don’t have a flow.


If Obito notices a clear and obviously change in experience and personality after Shiggy is incapped, I see no reason why he wouldn’t do it again.

He saw the Kunai coming man. He isn’t predicting a large shockwave coming out with no tell

That’s still altering chakra though there isn’t a case of it working on a being with no chakra whatsoever

So Obito is just gonna assume the guy he’s fighting got possessed instead of assuming he started fighting seriously or something? This is also functioning under the pretence that AFO doesn’t realise Shiggy got caught when he looked into the opponent’s clearly strange eye.

No one has addressed how AFO can start flying and range spamming with 7B attacks

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Honestly, Obito just kamui's him and ends it there.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

yeah unless shigaraki decays his head so he doesn't have the chance to use Kamui but shigaraki usually goes for the hands and even if he did go for the head his decay is still slow so i think Obito could think to use Kamui before the decay finishes him off

Shigaraki goes for the face/body in character. This version of Obito uses chains to catch people and Shigaraki can just decay them which will take out Obito’s hands and later body and make his Kamui worthless

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Honestly, Obito just kamui's him and ends it there.

He has to get close and get passed decay, this version of Obito uses his chains which are a liability to him. Obito also needs physical touch to suck someone into Kamui

 

[Youtd]

to me it seems like their's a 50/50 chance he would genjutsu twice. he either thinks genjutsu doesn't work on shigaraki or figures out that someone is possessing shigaraki and genjutsu the thing possessing shigaraki aka AFO

^^^

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

No one has addressed how AFO can start flying and range spamming with 7B attacks

Aren't you supposed to stick with what's on the profile? (7-C AP)

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Aren't you supposed to stick with what's on the profile? (7-C AP)

Usually yes but this Shigaraki is literally prime AFO when he gives up his body. However since it isn’t on his profile I’ll drop it

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

He saw the Kunai coming man. He isn’t predicting a large shockwave coming out with no tell

That’s still altering chakra though there isn’t a case of it working on a being with no chakra whatsoever

So Obito is just gonna assume the guy he’s fighting got possessed instead of assuming he started fighting seriously or something? This is also functioning under the pretence that AFO doesn’t realise Shiggy got caught when he looked into the opponent’s clearly strange eye.

No one has addressed how AFO can start flying and range spamming with 7B attacks

Yes, with his Precog. Just like he’ll see the shockwave coming, it frankly doesn’t matter, he’s dodged large attacks through Kamui (Konan’s initial paper barrage), or attacks from above him, vs the mist ninja.

IT worked on cats.

Yes, considering Obito is an incredibly tactical fighter, if he detects a sudden shift in fighting style, skill, and demeanor, he has no reason to not do it again.

Voting Obito via Precog, Kamui, and not to mention his Wood Style.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Usually yes but this Shigaraki is literally prime AFO when he gives up his body

Yes but that's still not in the profile though, get approved on a CRT first before using it in a match.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

He has to get close and get passed decay, this version of Obito uses his chains which are a liability to him. Obito also needs physical touch to suck someone into Kamui

Once his chains start to decay, that just let's obito know his opponents secret and let's him formulate a strategy to counter it. I don't know where you got the idea that he needs to touch us opponents to BFR then, because that isn't true at all.

 

[Youtd]

Shigaraki goes for the face/body in character. This version of Obito uses chains to catch people and Shigaraki can just decay them which will take out Obito’s hands and later body and make his Kamui worthless

yeah but he won't be able to touch Obito while he is intangible (every time he uses the chains Obito goes intangible in charterer) and his kamui wouldn't be worthless it turns all the damage he received into a dream afterwards he will be fully healed and have knowledge on what shigaraki can do so he knows he knows shigaraki's waves and attacks can kill him so he will probably just retreat into the kamui dimension which shigaraki cant get too. unless this obito cant go to the kamui dimension but he can still teleport away.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Also read Naruto Chapter 475. That's pretty much how this fight goes.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Yes, with his Precog. Just like he’ll see the shockwave coming, it frankly doesn’t matter, he’s dodged large attacks through Kamui (Konan’s initial paper barrage), or attacks from above him, vs the mist ninja.

IT worked on cats.

Yes, considering Obito is an incredibly tactical fighter, if he detects a sudden shift in fighting style, skill, and demeanor, he has no reason to not do it again.

Voting Obito via Precog, Kamui, and not to mention his Wood Style.

He needed precog to react to a thrown knife? You do know Sharingan precognition works by reading muscles movement. Konan was weaker than him and her attacks are projectiles not a shockwave with no tell

This isn’t Infinite Tsukuyomi and doesn’t everything in Naruto have chakra?

When has Obito ever done something like that in character. From his perspective Shigaraki so just gonna use more abilities and not really talk.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Once his chains start to decay, that just let's obito know his opponents secret and let's him formulate a strategy to counter it. I don't know where you got the idea that he needs to touch us opponents to BFR then, because that isn't true at all.

Then why’d he keep trying to grab Naruto to BFR him? Or why did he grab Minato to do the same

 

[Youtd]

also, i just realized Obito has Regeneration (High-Low with Hashirama's cells, as he can reattach lost limbs)

 

[Youtd]

Then why’d he keep trying to grab Naruto to BFR him? Or why did he grab Minato to do the same

his chains are usually behind him so I don think they will be affected first unless you mean that when he turns intangible and goes through shigaraki and sees his chains decaying.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Then why’d he keep trying to grab Naruto to BFR him? Or why did he grab Minato to do the same

This is kid obito you keep referring to, who doesnt have the exper with the sharingan. Obito doesn't have a ket for this version of himself so I'm not sure why you keep bringing it up. Also he doesn't use chains in his Tobi key which i forgot about.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Also read Naruto Chapter 475. That's pretty much how this fight goes.

Obito dealing with characters inferior to him in stats and actively going for physical hits on them doesn’t help him in this fight.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

He needed precog to react to a thrown knife? You do know Sharingan precognition works by reading muscles movement. Konan was weaker than him and her attacks are projectiles not a shockwave with no tell

This isn’t Infinite Tsukuyomi and doesn’t everything in Naruto have chakra?

When has Obito ever done something like that in character. From his perspective Shigaraki so just gonna use more abilities and not really talk.

The Sharingan is passive precognition, not sure why you’re saying he needs it. Why does Konan’s strength matter when I mentioned how fast he can go into Kamui?

IT is a Sharingan Genjutsu. Chakra was taught, at one point all humans didn’t have it.

Because Obito, like I said, is an extremely smart fighter, enough to infiltrate Konoha, and if anyone is going to decipher false identification, it’s Obito. He literally posed as a different person for most of his life.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

This is kid obito you keep referring to, who doesnt have the exper with the sharingan. Obito doesn't have a ket for this version of himself so I'm not sure why you keep bringing it up. Also he doesn't use chains in his Tobi key which i forgot about.

OP specified that Obito and are you trying to say Obito didn’t keep trying to touch Naruto?

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Read the chapter I referenced above.

 

[Youtd]

i think its because of this "This is Masked Man Obito, the one who fought Minato vs Tomura Shigaraki Post Surgery"

the one that fought Minato was kid obito

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Obito dealing with characters inferior to him in stats and actively going for physical hits on them doesn’t help him in this fight.

Stats are irrelevant when discussing two characters that fight with hax. Obito just appears within him and Kamui gg.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

i think its because of this "This is Masked Man Obito, the one who fought Minato vs Tomura Shigaraki Post Surgery"

the one that fought Minato was kid obito

That Obito doesnt have a key.

 

[Youtd]

anyways kid obito usually goes through his opponents and tries to catch them up in his chain however shigaraki would probably escape and decay the chains Obito would realize shigaraki can decay things and then i don't know what he does i have never seen Obito use genjutsu on anyone other then the 9 tails as a kid and I'm not sure if he has kamui all though I'm pretty sure he is already teamed up with Madara at this point.

 

[Youtd]

That Obito doesnt have a key.

At least Town level, likely Mountain level+ (Fought evenly with Minato Namikaze, although he lost in the end)

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

The Sharingan is passive precognition, not sure why you’re saying he needs it. Why does Konan’s strength matter when I mentioned how fast he can go into Kamui?

IT is a Sharingan Genjutsu. Chakra was taught, at one point all humans didn’t have it.

Because Obito, like I said, is an extremely smart fighter, enough to infiltrate Konoha, and if anyone is going to decipher false identification, it’s Obito. He literally posed as a different person for most of his life.

Obito dealing with people inferior to himself launching projectiles doesn’t equal someone on his level launching a large shockwave with no tell.

IT isn’t basic Sharingan Genjutsu and I’m pretty sure animals have chakra since Ninja hounds are a thing.

That doesn’t mean he’s gonna see a guy start fighting with more abilities and deduce he’s freaking possessed.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Stats are irrelevant when discussing two characters that fight with hax. Obito just appears within him and Kamui gg.

Obito doesn’t even fight like that. The fight you linked literally has him trying to punch people.