Fiamma vs Paarthurnax

[Lapsad]

So , if the clac from DT is perfectly then fiamma get win here

 

[Waria_Kambang]

Of course he knows shouts, but if he doesn't use them it means little Fiamma has the ability to negate durability with his hand, and Paar lacks the resistance, so it gets oneshot all the same.

Not just shouts, ALL shouts. But yeah, Paarthunax do get oneshotted here. It's pretty much a stomp in my opinion.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Where exactly does he claim that? He knows the shouts that the Greybeards do, for sure, but I missed the conversation that leads to such a claim.

How would he know the shout Duurnehviir, or the shout that he uses to summon undead from the soul cairn? Him being able to heal any wound with the shout Alduin uses to restore dragons, or the shout that Miraak uses to reap dragon souls (and its made clear that the dragon aspect is the one that he made himself) would also be things of major importance.

Knowing the words isn't exactly understanding their meaning, or combination. Else all dragons would know all shouts, and "dragons have fire or ice breath, but never both" wouldn't hold.

 

[Lapsad]

The shouts what he use it's should be from the dragon lair or shouts from dungeon in original main game not DLC for at least

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Where exactly does he claim that? He knows the shouts that the Greybeards do, for sure, but I missed the conversation that leads to such a claim.

How would he know the shout Duurnehviir, or the shout that he uses to summon undead from the soul cairn? Him being able to heal any wound with the shout Alduin uses to restore dragons, or the shout that Miraak uses to reap dragon souls (and its made clear that the dragon aspect is the one that he made himself) would also be things of major importance.

Knowing the words isn't exactly understanding their meaning, or combination. Else all dragons would know all shouts, and "dragons have fire or ice breath, but never both" wouldn't hold.

If I remember right, dragons can already raise the dead, duur went to the master cus he wanted MORE power

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I mean, not all dragons can. At the very least, I recall nothing claiming that dragons can use all of their shouts (Paarthurnax included), and specific claims (though dismissable since the writer was not knowledgeable) otherwise.

Words need to be understood and contemplated. It would make sense that dragons know the surface meaning of the words making up a shout, without being able to use it themselves.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

I mean, not all dragons can. At the very least, I recall nothing claiming that dragons can use all of their shouts (Paarthurnax included), and specific claims (though dismissable since the writer was not knowledgeable) otherwise.

Words need to be understood and contemplated. It would make sense that dragons know the surface meaning of the words making up a shout, without being able to use it themselves.

That would apply to humans

Dragons can understand and use them as it is their nature

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Again, I would ask for a book or source for that. Not saying it's false, but I certainly recall no such thing.

I do recall claims (which are backed up by the game itself, for what that is worth) of most dragons being unable to breathe ice and fire, being one or the other.

It might be in their nature, but not all dragons are equal in their understanding of words, or else Paarthurnax contemplating the meaning of some shouts would make no sense.

Since there are obvious exceptions to shouts dragons have no access to, I'd be interested in something that claims otherwise. Not saying it's impossible, but I certainly see that nowhere.

 

[XDragnoir]

Okay okay, TES lore is complex and extensive, we know that, can Fiamma win or no?

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Okay okay, TES lore is complex and extensive, we know that, can Fiamma win or no?

He has the instant teleportation and can AP stomp

So it's a stomp

 

[00potato]

Ok on to Parth vs Tatsumaki

 

[Lapsad]

I agree with ricsi paar are't gathered all the shouts , at least , he would hold all of them in main game , so the thread is litterally stomp

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

I agree with ricsi paar are't gathered all the shouts , at least , he would hold all of them in main game , so the thread is litterally stomp

He is above the greybeards who learn from parthurnax as he is their master

Also parthurnax does not really fight and when he does his shout to go is fire shout in character

 

[Malox1696]

if so it's probably a stomp