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I'm mostly likely going to regret creating this thread

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Hades's void Manipulation would actually kill the Emprah, question is who gets it off first.
 
I meant the scale, tho. Like with Hades stuff being 3-A in scale it's not out of nowhere for him to passively shut down the Emperor then just stab him.
 
LoyalservantofInti said:
Gargoyle One said:
Hades's void Manipulation may actually kill the Emprah, question is who gets it off first.
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Horus has the ability to nullify mid godly and he couldn't permanently kill kill the emperor.
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Horus crippled the Emperor for 11,000 years and never forced him to reach Mid-Godly regen.
 
Horus has the ability to nullify mid godly and he couldn't permanently kill kill the emperor.
Horus crippled the Emperor for 11,000 years and never forced him to reach Mid-Godly regen.

First off, injured isn't the same as killed. Second, horus had the help of 4 1-B entities.
 
Horus never did anything to the Emperor that required him to use Mid-Godly Regenerationn, he just horribly crippled him and forced him into the Golden Throne for the next 11,000 years.

"Horus who can nullify Mid-Godly regen can't kill the Emperor" is a disingenuous claim.
 
FateAlbane said:
I meant the scale, tho. Like with Hades stuff being 3-A in scale it's not out of nowhere for him to passively shut down the Emperor then just stab him.
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Wait....If the Emprah can be KO'd...Then yeah, Hades should be able to knock him out.
 
It is a completely disingenuous claim and this match is dumb.

Pray tell me, what exactly can The Emperor do to affect Hades, who is extremely haxed on his own right, and far above baseline 3-A.

Bypass his durability with his sword? Perhaps, but would it truly be right to simply assume it would work on someone so many orders of magnitude stronger? And that's ignoring that Hades' own sword can do much the same thing, and there are several people with Void Manipulation and Existence Erasure in Saint Seiya who can't erase Hades, who has Type 8 Immortality, is an Abstract arguably and has Mid-Godly Regen.

To say nothing of Hades' vastly superior range, which is Multi-Universal, and abilities like Life & Death Manipulation, Teleportation and Psychic Skills on such range.

The Emperor can't teleport to another universe and attack someone on another universe with his mind. Hades can.

Hades can also seal senses and destroy minds with his presence alone, has some degree of Concept Manipulation, is an Acausal, has Causality Manipulation on a Universal level, can attack you in the past...
 
FateAlbane said:
I meant the scale, tho. Like with Hades stuff being 3-A in scale it's not out of nowhere for him to passively shut down the Emperor then just stab him.
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I think Hades stomps because this.
 
I actually forgot to disable type 8 immortality. Anyway I feel as if we should wait for Azzy to give input here.
 
Wow, actually restricting Hades' Immortality on this match to nerf him.

But I suppose that if someone argues for the Emperor, the argument will be BUT HIS TRUE SELF IS 1-B HE CAN'T BE KILLED or 1-B EXISTENCE ERASURE LEL.

Which is super fair.

Everytime people use these types of arguments for other characters it gets shut down, like using High 1-C SCP-682, or Reinhard's 1-A Immortality. Even Ghost Rider's Type 8 Immortality from a 3-A gets contested a lot to be used in matches.

But the God-Emperor gets a pass apparently.
 
LoyalservantofInti said:
Attack you in the past... but empra has time paradox immunity.
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He really doesn't. Re-reading Master of Mankind Ra Endymion met the child Emperor in a dream vision.
 
Also if you want to use that as an argument for Emperor, I can use actual Acausality for Hades.

One of Hades' Spectres in Lost Canvas was completely unaffected by a Temporal Rewind brought forth by a Primordial God of Time, because as he is an Immortal Specter, time has no meaning to him.

This is from a being who is simply blessed by Hades, no Hades himself. Hades scales to Athena giving the middle-finger to the Space-time continuum enforcing causality.

Also, Saint Seiya characters have Timestop Immunity relative to their own power level (Gold Saints can shrug off Time Stops that affect Bronze Saints and gods can shrug off Time Stops that affect Gold Saints), so that is another thing that the Emperor won't be able to use to defeat Hades.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
Wow, actually restricting Hades' Immortality on this match to nerf him.
But I suppose that if someone argues for the Emperor, the argument will be BUT HIS TRUE SELF IS 1-B HE CAN'T BE KILLED or 1-B EXISTENCE ERASURE LEL.

Which is super fair.

Everytime people use these types of arguments for other characters it gets shut down, like using High 1-C SCP-682, or Reinhard's 1-A Immortality. Even Ghost Rider's Type 8 Immortality from a 3-A gets contested a lot to be used in matches.

But the God-Emperor gets a pass apparently.
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I am starting to feel regret about making that match.

Scrw yu matt.... Scrw u ;-;
 
Knightofannihilation666 said:
I actually forgot to disable type 8 immortality. Anyway I feel as if we should wait for Azzy to give input here.
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Why? If I or anyone else thinks Hades or whoever else wins, can we not say it, or are our arguments invalid before Azathoth's?

I feel you actually want a certain character to win here.
 
Matt calm down, I think you're being a little presumptuous here.

Personally I think that If both have Type 8 but when is restricted by default the other should be restricted as well.
 
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