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Speed of Electricity

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Now i know we use 440,000 m/s for lightning speed here, but what speed do we use for electricity? Ive been told 60 m/s and mach 1.6, but these seem a bit odd and way too low IMO. I could be wrong though.
 
Mach 1.634 is from a tesla gun.

The calc is probably in either Darkanine or Repps blogs.

Alternatively u could search Lina's deletion log.
 
Ehh, @Matt, I think you're confusing 60 m/s with 60 km/s, guessing tho, cuz 60 m/s isn't above Mach 1.6

Anyway, as almost electronic engeenier, I never heard about a theory that relate speed with current/tension, Lina made a calc, but was a speed of only one experiment, and it could vary with the intensity of the current/tension.
 
@Radical The only other blog with Tesla anything is a calc done by BMHKai unless it wasnt restored along with the others.

@Antonio See, 60 km/s I can believe. Unfortunately i cant seem to find the calc Lina did so perhaps a reevaluation is in order?
 
So is that the speed we should use for electricity-based weaponry? Or should we take it case-by case?
 
Should i highlight this for more input? This seems like a pretty important decision.
 
So from what I understand, a calc of electricity suggests its mach 1.6 right? So why is 60km/s / its comparsion to electricty being brought up?
 
Yeah, 60 km/s is the minimal speed for lightning, SA use that value for reference, that isn't the speed for electricity any kind of electricity.
 
What kind of electricity are we talking about here? Lightning itself is a form of electricity.
 
Then I'm going for Mach 1.6.

Additionally, from what I can tell the 60 km / s argument comes from the similarity between lightning and electricity, however it should be noted that this comparison doesn't warrant anything speed wise, and that even fire is more akin to lightning (Due to both being plasma unlike electricity which is a current made by electrons or something, although I've seen people argue fire shouldn't be considered plasma at times).
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
Uh, SD. Read the two links I posted. Lightning is literally electricity.
Yeah, we known, but not any current is lightning, so we can't give them the same properties. For example, electric chairs nor tazer produce temperatures about 30000 K
 
If it helps, the footage Lina used was from this video the parts calced were at 7:35 and 8:02.

The first bit calced was only one frame on their high speed camera, so it could have actually been faster, the second part was at a point where the electricity was traveling more slowly.

I don't know much about electricity, but if the voltage or charge could affect speed at all, it's worth noting that the tesla coil involved had a weak current.
 
Hmm I see. So from what I got from Matt's sources, lightning is a form of electricity.

So, I stay at my previous decision, because his last source also suggests auroras are forms of electricity. In which case, means that while lightning = electricity, non-lightning electricity is not, well, lightning, so it still shouldn't scale.
 
Update: I found this

"Electricity and light are both forms of ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION (ER) and all ER travels at the same speed of 300,000. km/second"


(Electricity is NOT faster than Light.)

"Light and Electricity are the SAME THING. Electricity is just Light guided along wires. (Sort of.)

But this "guiding" of light along the wires makes it slow down little."

http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=2910
 
The high-end for that electricity calc states Mach 11.75, which is the speed right when the electricity is discharged from the appliance.

Use Mach 11.75 for speed of electricity from electrical appliances, as that is the high end of the calc. The low end of the calc is when the electricity has traveled a considerable distance from the appliance, where air friction would slow down the speed of electricity considerably.

This speed is also consistent with Avatar's lightning calculation as well as LordX's calculatio regarding the speed of electricity.

Calculate some more experiments similar to what I did in my electrical calc and see what you guys get.
 
Was it not calculated at Mach 12 or something? Although that speed was rejected for being an outlier throughout the series.

Regarding my calculation about the speed of electricity, I am still wondering why said speed did not even come close to the actual speed of lightning, nor the speed of electrical discharges [which is 60km/s]...
 
If the speed of an electrical discharge is in fact 60 km/s, shouldnt we just use that?
 
This doesnt have anything to do with Overwatch and Doomfist does it ;)

Cause we see Doomfist actually dodge winstons tesla in his origin story
 
Partially, yes, but i's also for basically anyone who has feats of dodging electricity-based weaponry
 
WeeklyBattles said:
If the speed of an electrical discharge is in fact 60 km/s, shouldnt we just use that?
The minimum speed for the first lightning discharge. I am fine with using it.
 
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