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Superman vs Sentry Rematch

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So one of the biggest reasons Superman won against Sentry was due to durability negation with his heat vision, he no longer has it, plus Sentry now has Matter Manipulation and Reality Warping.

So who wins between the Original and the Rip Off? (Or perfected model however you look at it)
 
Hmmm...

Very close, but superman is almost impossible to put down... Even people who exploit his weaknesses like kryptonite lose to him... And he can manipulate matter on a subatomic scale. So supes will kill sentry after a very long and close fight.
 
LoyalservantofInti said:
Hmmm...

Very close, but superman is almost impossible to put down... Even people who exploit his weaknesses like kryptonite lose to him... And he can manipulate matter on a subatomic scale. So supes will kill sentry after a very long and close fight.
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If only supes can bypass sentry's regen and his atoms being in a different timeline....
 
Well, Clark seems to have resistance to most of Sentry's hax, but there are still some things that would work, like Energy Manipulation, Elemental Manipulation, Soul Manipulation or Shapeshifting, and, even thought Sups is likely far more powerful, I don't think he has any way to get pass that High Regen, Type 4 Immortality and Resurrection, so, I'll vote for Sentry.
 
@Paulo - Superman is resistant to Soul manipulation

@Peter - Superman very much did a similar thing in the comics, the only difference between the movie and the comic that I can remember is it was implied to be permanent in the movie, and Superman went out of his way to mention it was temporary in the comic. Should he need to, he very much could focus his heat vision into somone's skull, though in character, he is likely to not do that and that won't do anything to sentry here.
 
PostmodernD said:
@Paulo - Superman is resistant to Soul manipulation.
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Well, guess that's what I get from reading the page too fast, but, anyway:

"Well, Clark seems to have resistance to most of Sentry's hax, but there are still some things that would work, like Energy Manipulation, Elemental Manipulation or Shapeshifting, and, even thought Sups is likely far more powerful, I don't think he has any way to get pass that High Regen, Type 4 Immortality and Resurrection, so, I'll vote for Sentry."
 
I just don't see any of those things doing anything, except maybe energy manipulation. Right now I'm voting inconclusive. Superman can hurt Sentry, a lot, but I'm not sure he could either knock him out and it seems he certainly has no way to kill him. Likewise, it seems Sentry's ways to attack Superman are limited. But if like to hear what Peter has to say, my experience with Sentry is limited to Siege and a few parts of other stories.
 
Voting Superman, since he seems more experienced and versatile with all his many resistances and developed techniques over the years
 
THPostmodernD said:
@Paulo - Superman is resistant to Soul manipulation
@Peter - Superman very much did a similar thing in the comics, the only difference between the movie and the comic that I can remember is it was implied to be permanent in the movie, and Superman went out of his way to mention it was temporary in the comic. Should he need to, he very much could focus his heat vision into somone's skull, though in character, he is likely to not do that and that won't do anything to sentry here.
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That's all nice and everthing, but how is superman going permantly kill sentry? He has Regenerationn (High), Immortality (Types 1, 3, and 4) and his atoms are an instant ahead of the current timeline, so how is he going do it? You can have all the techniques in world, but if you can't put someone down for good with them, then what's the point?
 
Where does Sentry get his Type 4 immortality from?

Also, what about his CLOC sentient computer system? Does that help in any way?
 
I'm assuming we're using base Sentry then?
 
@Peter. Drop the the condecention please. If you read my post, you'd notice I said it wouldn't do anything to Sentry, merely corrected your assertion that superman couldn't focus his heat vision into someone's skull if he chose to.
 
Inconclusive. Superman resists soul eating and is far stronger than sentry, but Sentry's high regen and being ahead of the timeline let him recover from whatever damage Superman does
 
No problem, I thought it seemed odd, I also came here in a bad mood and shouldn't have dragged it into the forums. I'm sorry.

Back on topic, Can the sentry be paralyzed? Is there any history of immunity to that in the comics. Simply thinking of pressure point attacks, but I'm not familiar enough with Sentry to say if that's even a card Superman could play.
 
Superman is not killing Sentry because of regen, resurrection and immortality. I'd give this to Sentry high difficulty. He can just wear Superman out, and even if by some miracle that Sentry dies, he just resurrects for another round over and over again.
 
I think the question many people are forgetting is does superman have the means to kill sentry? No, he does not. His Regenerationn is monsterous and his immortality doesnt help that at all I will concede in raw skill and power, superman may have this. But even then, Sentry can keep on fighting for days and weeks and superman at best cant even kill him permanently.

Also never seen him have reality warping, but I have seen him use matter manipulation fairly well and I think that is honestly enough to take out superman Sentry with mid high diff, because of regen, matter manipulation and immortality.
 
Superman is resistent to Matter Manipulation (Got ninjed), and I don't think he could wear Superman out, even after an extremely long fight, since Superman's stamina is "Essentially infinite as long as he's under yellow or blue sunlight", so, inconclusive?
 
Thats my current thoughts Paulo, but I am still trying to figure out Sentry's level of 4B. Furthest I've gotten is stronger than Thor.
 
I thought it was 1 million. Thing is, that really doesn't mean much to me. I have no idea how many foe or whatever that is compared to Superman. I'm not exactly a math and science guy sadly.
 
If the 1 million suns is to be believed, Sentry should be slightly stronger.

Might I add people, Supes is much faster.
 
Being faster isn't going to matter if he can't kill Sentry and eventually Sentry will realise that Superman can regain strength if he continues to absorb sun energy and exploit this.
 
So, Clark doesn't have the AP advantage this time? This is surprisingly. But if he does have a Speed advantage and is resistant to most of Sentry's hax, everything seems to be leading to Inconclusive.
 
Sentry is never touching Superman then. Superman recharges constantly, but can't do anything to put sentry down aside from maybe pressure point attacks, which I find to be a stretch. Neither has a hax that can do significant damage to the other either. Superman has stamina, sentry has regen. Sentry has Ap advantage, Superman has speed. I'm sticking with inconclusive for now.
 
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