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Beerus vs Godcat

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The universal cat gods of destruction and creation battle each other in a fight to the death!

Speed equalized, True Godcat is used but she can't create Akron. Both are in character but serious about winning. Battle takes place in a neutral universe.

They start at 1 kilometre from each other.

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Beerus :
Godcat :

Inconclusive: 7 (DerpCity, LoyalservantofInti, Anonimoe7875, LordGriffin 1000, JustSomeWeirdo, Darkanine, MaverickIsTheHype)
 
Man, its been so long since I've played Epic Battle Fantasy 4... I never bothered to finish 3, lol.

I'm not much of a Dragonball fan, but would Hakai work on a (possibly) omnipresent being with roughly the same level of power that he is? And how does Godcat's reality warping work?
 
Hakai works on intangible beings (which is essentially what an omnipresent becomes with speed equal) but idk if it would work against beings of his own caliber. I don't think that Beerus would start with it though.

The two instances that I can remember of Godcat using hers reality warping are creating the universe from nothing and taking away limbs from all the cats in the world.
 
3D omnipresence isn't a real speed tho. It's just a state of existence.
 
Omnipresenence in general is a state and not speed. However it is put in the speed category and endless you want another 70 post debating why it's in the speed category.
 
Yeah, but 4D omnipresence and onwards gives Immeasurable speed, 3D omnipresence doesn't give infinite.

Anyway, are you voting for someone?
 
If Godcat can get rid of his limbs (I mean, Beerus is a cat thing after all), then Beerus's mastery over hand-to-hand combat is completely nullified, and possibly the ability to use his other abilities.

If they can't, then Beerus could probably nullify the majority of their attacks, seeing how they're energy based, and beat the hell out of them due to his mastery of hand-to-hand. However, Godcat might have a power advantage due to creating the universe, and I'm pretty sure the Dragonball universe is relatively small, but I could be wrong.

Going to go with inconclusive for now.
 
Beerus has no resistance to Reality Warping so it should work.

A good amount of her attacks are elemental though.

DB universe is big actually. But both are universal because they fodderize other universals, so their power levels should be near.
 
Kaltias said:
The two instances that I can remember of Godcat using hers reality warping are creating the universe from nothing and taking away limbs from all the cats in the world.
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So basically a Kaioshin on steroids? Hmmmmmmmmmmm. I give it to Beerus as he casually nullified the combined energies of Goku's attack and his own, hakai probably also seals the deal.

Though in DB hax are only truly effective if you're stronger than your opponent (SSB Goku completely made restricted Hit's timeskip useless until he got stronger).
 
A Kaioshin who can warp him out of existence (or erase his head instead of his limbs if she so wish).

About the raw power:

Akron's existence is considered greater than whole universes in EBF3. He is kiled by the players.

During the mid game of EBF4, said players, who are stronger to a degree, face a weakened avatar of Godcat. They are immediately fodderized and curbstomped. During the mid-late game, this happens again against another weakened avatar. At the end of the game, the players are strong enough to hold their own against the avatars, who are now at full power (Avatars are still stronger though).

During Bullet Heaven 2, they face Akron's reincarnation, who is much more powerful than his previous self, to the point where he dwarfs even the Avatars. And they beat him.

Their combined might is STILL fodder when compared to Godcat's true form.

And I hope that "hax are only truly effective if you're stronger" was referred to the Hakai, because that's surely not a limitation that Godcat has
 
So about how much greater than whole universes? Beerus has casually nullified the energy capable of destroying at least 2 universes in BoG (since ki attacks are massively stronger than physical attacks), not noting that the universe has at least 4 universe sized realms inside of it, still being above SSB KKx10 Goku who is massively beyond the SSG form, and is arguably still above Vegito Blue and Fusion Zamasu.

@ the hax statement, in DB, someone who tries to use hax against you will fail if they're weaker than you, USUALLY, as that wasn't the case when Buuhan turned Vegito into candy (though he allowed it to happen because he wanted to be absorbed but didn't want to make it too easy). If the opponent is on the same level or higher the hax works.
 
An unknown degree. But the fact that he says "Planets, stars, entire universes, even Gods" implies that it's quite a high degree of 3-A.

Also you still need to explain how he can get past her reality warping.
 
An unknown degree indeed, with Beerus, we get some feats that give us some indication of how many times powerful he is over baseline 3-A, but with just a statement it's hard to gauge.

You said her reality warping is creating universes and taking the limbs off of all the cats in the world.

1. Beerus can destroy a universe easily

2. He's a cat-like humanoid, I don't think they're the same thing (unless you know something I don't about the whole cat thing).
 
We could lowball it to the max (2 universes) and we would still end up with something comparable to Beerus.

1 so can Godcat. In fact, she is both the embodiment of creation and destruction

2 said cats built civilizations yet to be surpassed and had Solar System busting weaponry (the protectors). And it was mostly to say that she can use her RL offensively. Only reason why she took only the limbs is because she didn't felt like killing them, she just wanted to punish them.
 
Beerus is above super Saiyan blue Kaiden times 10 goku by a lot. And since then goku ssjb is equal to ssj blue kaio ken times 10 from Universe 6 arc when he used it he should be times 10 stronger then the last time he used it. So beerus is 100 times above baseline
 
Akron = 2 universes (lowballl)

EBF4 players = 2 universes each. Weakened avatar>>>>> combined might of the players = 2x5 = 10 times universal. Let's lowball the two full power avatars to be both twice as strong. Both avatars= 10x2 + 10x2 = 40. Let's lowball the BH2 players to be as strong as them. Akron fought all of them, so 40x5 = 200. That's still weaker than Godcat's true form. So let's just say that raw power is similar.
 
That's speculation enless it's directly stated to be that multipler :). All god cat would get is baseline universal (times 2) possible even higher rating.
 
That's a massive amount of lowball after lowball actually. I'm assuming that the fraction of power was 1/2, that the universes where only 2, that the weakened avatars are exactly as strong as the combined might of the players (which they fooderized) that the BH2 party is just as strong as them while everything points towards them being massively stronger.
 
Yes I get that but that is still speculation and using assumptions that are not confirmed regardless of how much sense it makes. It like this for explain 1 guy fodderize 100 people and with one arm he states he used minimal effort to do that. All 100 people where baseline planet level. But we don't go around assuming the person is 10 times stronger then the other people and give him a 10 times baseline planet level rating. We still give him planet level baseline possible far higher rating.
 
And yet we rate Ragyō as High 7-A due to how ridiculously superior she is to 7-A monsters. And we rate KH characters as SS level because they are ridiculously above casual Large Star level people.

Anyway, Godcat starts with reality warping, so raw power isn't a big concern.
 
That might need to be fixed as saitama doesn't even get a higher rating then baseline planet level disputed the minimal effort he puts in.
 
Beerus is still a cat-like humanoid and not an actual cat, so I don't see what Godcat can do to Beerus that he can't casually shrug off.
 
@Huesito

Thing is that Saitama doesn't reach the necessary x 47 to jump to another tier.

@Unite My Rice

Beerus is exactly as resistant to reality warping as the cats who got their limbs warped away, if she did it to them, she can do it to him. And in all likelihood he can't "casually shrug off" even her regular elemental manipulation.
 
You realize that I won't count your vote if it's based on the fact that reality warping won't work, right? If you can prove that he is resistant to it, go ahead and i'll count it
 
I go with inconclusive

Godcat can just warp Beerus limbs and Beerus can hakai them

but seems like the cats got a better chance .-.
 
Minor thing, but True Godcat is actually single being. Those are the avatars
 
Yeah but he is still baseline line he isn't like baseline times 2 dispite the possibility that he can easily be 10 times baseline. Yes I know large planet level is 47 times higher.
 
This also has to do with the fact that we fear potential NLF if we give him the "likely higher" (because its Saitama).

We can continue this discussion on my wall if you wish. This isn't the right place
 
Godcat warped the limbs of cats it created in its own image, not anything else apparently. First thing that makes me feel sketchy about it. Secondly I still have no idea about how powerful Godcat is unlike Beerus, third the closest thing Beerus has shown to countering reality warping was being immune to toon force (Goku said Arale's powers wouldn't work on him), seeing how he was about to one-shot Arale.
 
It doesn't mean she is limited to only warp them .-.

wow the best thing we got for beerus is that he is at least 10x baseline universe because of ssbkkx10 goku .-.

but well... the scaling is basically

Akron < Players < early/mid-game Players <<< Incomplete god cat avatar =< end-game Players <<< Complete avatar god cat < Bullet heaven 2 Players/Akron <<< True god cat

...I can't belive i forget about Arale vs Beerus
 
Actually 100 times baseline since current goku in ssjb is as strong as universe 6 goku with kaio Ken times 10.
 
Arale isn't a reality warper who can create a universe from nothing nor can she erase people. Prove me that he survived a reality warping as powerful as Godcat's.

Godcat warped their limbs, and that's literally just because she felt like it. She could have warped their heads if she wanted to kill them. But she didn't, because they are hers children, and she actually cares for them.

Heck, her avatars can create little stars on the battlefield just to make them explode in your face, and they are only shadows of her true power.

Raw power is borderline irrelevant because he'll go for the Hakai and she'll go for the erasure.
 
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