@Dontalk wonderful counter, i will greet it with my own rebuttal as well.
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Using this he can take any group of different beings, divide them and make the resulting groups fight each other.
Does that include beings that are spiritual manifestation of the character himself. I'm wondering cus the fallen warriors Ken has with him aren't fully conscious beings but just spiritual manifestation of said being who's only purpose is to protect and attack with Kenshiro.
So if Kenshiro gets people to help, he actually is just creating enemies for himself.
Even if the people are just manifestation of kenshiros consiousness and spiritual conntection with said beings. Either way if they start attacking him I'm certain Kenshiro would just make them go away.
For Kenshiros advanced precognition something much worse happens.
His precognition will cause a power increase loop for Aleisters spells.
What I mean is the following will happen once Aleister attacks:
Kenshiro precogs on the attacks details -> Kenshiro expects that the attack will be as powerful as his precognition told him (or stronger if he realizes the power increase mechanism) -> The Blasting Rod amplifies the spell to 10 times Kenshiros expectations -> Kenshiro precogs the changed parameter of the attacks
End = beginning, loop goes ad infinitum.
Wow that is quite the broken ability, now the way Kenshiros precog works isn't like it gives him full detail of the parameters of an attacks power. It just allows him to see the sequence of how an attack will act on him and what would happen if he faces it or not.
The problem I see is idk how Kenshiro would view the attack cause of aliesters attack, dies he start off with blast rod or another attack. However If blast rod without the 10x power boost is city level at base than Kenshiro would intislly see the attack as not strong enough to kill him ao he will likely face the attack unless he can view the affects of the curse if the affects are immediate but i don't want to speculate so I will just say he will likely rank the attack if he knows it won't kill him.
So Kenshiros precog would give Aleister the opportunity to very quickly power up to universe level, at which point the destruction his attacks cause as sise effect would long have exceeded what Kenshiro can block or dodge.
Okay I don't think that's how vs matches lientuese work. Otherwise I'd have to close this thread as a stomp since Kenshiro obviously won't survive a universal attack or anything really a tier above his own dura or AP. Does aleister have a base AP to his variable tier at the very least so you can keep the 10x strength boost, otherwise IDK how a match like this can happen.
Now let's get to the other arguments:
For one this battle is speed equal, which makes a real blitz already not possible. Than Aleister can summon his shield for defense, which would profit from the Blasting Rod
Forgive I shouldn't have said blitz, what I was trying to convey was Kenshiro was going through burst through the aleisters at incredible speeds(they will still perceive him obviously, but equal speeds doesn't mean Ken can't move forwards at incredible speeds.) and with his advanced precogs he would be able to attack the aliesters in a way faster than they can begin attacking as Kenshiro already knows where and where they will strike. This was my initial argument when writing that piece.
Lastly there is an increadibly simple ability that goes in his favor that is often overlooked: He can fly. With Kenshiro not being able to fly this is already a huge disadvantage for him due to being resitricted to his ranged techniques, which aren't his most powerful ones form what I see
While Kenshiro cannot full on fly, he can however jump incredibly high and levitate and move around in the air actually for a short amount of time(he learned this watching a man named kuroyasha float and move around in the air. He also was able to briefly stay in the air against raoh himself. Albeit I doubt Kenshiro can won't be able to move very far wile in the air.)
But the fact that his range is only tens of meters means Aleister can easily fly outside of Kenshiros attack range, while launching attacks himself. So he will have plently of trouble defeating an Aleister even if Aleister only fights defensive.
That is true it would be difficult for Kenshiro to hit aleister as if he stays away far enough his ranged techniques could not reach him. However if that came to be, Kenshiro could play the defensive as well and keep himself protected with the technique "Shin ten rai" a large aura sphere that destroys anything that try's to enter its sphere. It's strong enough that when Ken was first introduced to it he had to go Museo tensei and phase through the attack in order to pass through it.
I wouldn't be so sure. His profile mentions he can go 3 months without food, which is still different form having to actively fight during that period. But ok, lets stretch it and say he could fight 6 month straight.
I should mention Kenshiro does have pressure points that can revitalize his stamina and strength during a fight if things get tough. Some won't affect him, others will cost a bit of his life force buts it's a risk he would take if the fight demands for it.
So I already see no way Kenshiro can defeat the whole pile of Aleisters before he runs out of stamina.
Aleisters dura is a bit confusing, on one hand it says he survived a attack from a 2-A being, in Which case I would need to close the thread cus no that's a very very bad stomp. But if his dura is 9-C for surviving a handgun shot, than killing 70-100 aleisters at once would be very easy in a short amount of time(in fact Kenshiro had a unlisted techniques That all involve hitting multiple opponents at once in rows or large groups.
But consider that the numbers of Aleisters isn't static. For Aleisters existence it is so that one is spwas for every "if"-scenario in his life.
What we can do is approximate how often this events happen or in others words how many new Aleisters can be expected to appear over a certain timeframe.
Let's assume the "ifs" are that of all his life and not just those that happened after he aquired that technique (that is a low end). Next we need to know which year to aru plays in. It plays in our timeline, but the year isn't given. Since at the summer of the timeline smartphones weren't a thing, but by winter they were invented, I should not be far of by saying it likely plays before 2010.
Aleister was born 1875 meaning that at this point he would than be 135 years old.
135 years = 135*365*24*60*60 seconds = 4257360000 seconds
So since there are 1,083,092,867 Aleisters that means on average one spawns every 4257360000/1,083,092,867 = 3.93 seconds 3 seconds per spawn will give Kenshiro plenty of time to kill each individual aleister.dont forget dontalk, if Kenshiro is in Museo tensei, all he's got to do is walk through the aleisters for their existences to be erased so it will just be Ken hitting and walking through tons of aliesters.
So actually not only do I doubt that Kenshiro can defeat all Aleisters before his stamina runs out. I doubt that if he had infinite stamina he could ever decrease the amount of Aleisters that exist at the beginning, since that would mean he would need to kill 1 every 4 seconds, which is far above my estimation for his fighting ability. DONT(heh pun) underestimate his fighting ability yet. Fighting an army of trained warriors is something Kenshiro can do. And he's arguably one of those skilled fighters in fiction do to his wider array of fighting styles and techniques and his ability to copy fighting styles and patterns during fights perfectly and developing perfect counters to said styles or techniques. So fighting an aleister every 4 seconds is something he is capable of doing.
If the blasting rod amplifies him to the tier 2 level through the possible scenario described above the result should also be clear.
Again it's not allowed for aleister to surpass kenshiros tier that much especially tier 2-3 or this match will he closed for being a stomp.
. There is the by effect of spiritual tripping that makes it so that, if the target isn't killed, it is cursed to a life in which every decision it ever makes leads to failure. The spell works, though the machanic is unknonw. Fate or probability manipulation I would guess. While that spell will heavily trip kenshiro up I doubt immidiate lethal effects, though.
Well that would suck for Ken after the match but as you state I doubt the effects will happen in the fight immediately.
But with a bit of prep, which he can get here, Aleister has 3 methods that work against him.
1. Aleister is one of the few (if not the only mentioned, I don't remember) people that can create original grimoirs. An original grimoir is essentially a book with a bit sentience. It chooses who is allowed to read it itself and aside from its creator this are very few people (certainly not kenshiro who is not a magician, as they prefer people that can spread their knowledge properly).
If someone else decides to read such a grimoire the result will be it mind attacking the opponent in a manner that can even end lethal. Even with preperation it is hardly possible to survive that, so Aleister creating such a grimoir can use it as a weapon for mind attacks.
2. Aleister can set up spaces with non euclidean geometry. For one thing Aleister can seperate people in this spaces as he wishes, which means that he has some capabilities to trap kenshiro in them. Another possibility is that he can do as in the windowless building and stretch the non-euclidean space all the way up into space and just leave kenshiro.
Will this BFR Ken for a month, that's the only way he could win said match by our rules. Count Ken break away from the building, a fall from space isn't that deadly to someone in kens tier.
3. Aleister is very good in summoning rituals and has demonstrated being able to make summoned beings posses people. So, he can summon some demon or angel and have it possess kenshiro and this is with likely the least preperation from all of this. In that case intangibility doesn't matter anymore.
Possess as in how?, kenshiros soul is very powerful in its own right, characters have gone on to state it's the blood of the god of war. And kenshiros soul has been shown to be coabale of fighting on its own so something trying to possess him is not gunna be easy.
The last one reminds me that Aleister can probably trap intangible beings in magical circles, since he could contain a formless wind-like demon in it and in general summoners have to control the demons which could easily possess people
Thing is those demons possess a intangiblity inferior to kens as they are made up of a earthly element, meanwhile kenshiros intangiblity embodies nothingness itself and passes through all physical/energy attacks that are not made of the same being.
Btw would it be possible for Kenshiro to trap aleister and himself into the Soryu Tenra. A technique where Kenshiro creates a realm of nothingness where neither fighter is allowed to defend him himself with anything but his fist alone. It basically removes protections and barriers either fighter would have and doesn't allow either one to fight with energy attacks either. It's a technique where whichever fighter is the superior skilled fighter will win and the loser will have his body die and become one with the nothingness of the realm.
All in all @Dontalk you made a very well through argument and even added a little mini calc for good measures. But with the argument I page out I Believe Kenshiro could come out as the winner, albeit with great difficulty.
Unless aleister is allowed to use tier 2 attacks and keep jos 2-A dura or get strong enough to surpass kens tier by a lot. I wbhich case it's a stomp lol and I'd have to close it.
