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I managed to find a calc for the Ocean Spirit, if it is accepted it should scale to some of the other spirits like Vaatu.
EDIT: Proper link here.
EDIT: Proper link here.
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The link doesn't seem to be working
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Yeah the link is not working.
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Who would this scale too? I can't see the feats themselves.
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Yeah you have to be logged in to their site in order to see the pictures, otherwise only numbers are seeable.
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That's dumb, what ep is it?
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Should be the final episode of season one I believe.
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Wait the one where Aang enters the state and turns into a water giant? That didn't get calc'd until now?! Took them long enough
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Yup yup
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The link to the actual calc has been adjusted.
Remind me later to post the calc in an actual blog.
Remind me later to post the calc in an actual blog.
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The calculations team should take a closer look at it to see if the calc is correct or not.
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It is being evaluated right now, although it is likely we may need to re-check Kiyoshi's island splitting feat.
Or just leave the feat as an outlier, considering Aang was empowered by the Moon spirit and all.
Or just leave the feat as an outlier, considering Aang was empowered by the Moon spirit and all.
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The yield for that Water Spirit wave calcuation is turning out to be a lot higher than I thought it would be.
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I made a calculation on that Water Spirit. Higher than I expected, although not entirely unreasonable considering Kiyoshi's Island Split/Moving feat.
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The Avatar Calculation will be posted in the Calculation Evaluations thread, as the version that I did had a different result compared to TTGL's original version of the calculation.
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@DT
We already established that, its not scaling to anyone. As a matter of fact we've pretty much agreed (I think) that it was La who was doing most of everything since Aang at that time was inexperienced with water bending and La was pretty much in control the entire time.
We already established that, its not scaling to anyone. As a matter of fact we've pretty much agreed (I think) that it was La who was doing most of everything since Aang at that time was inexperienced with water bending and La was pretty much in control the entire time.
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Yes but as pointed out Aang had little control over the A.S. at that time. I mean around that time he would pass out after using it. If he truly had half of that power (which would still be Island Level, aka outlierish), he would not have needed to combine with La at all to form the Koizilla.
So either way, whether Aang was inexperienced or not, it was agred that La was doing most of everything during the attack.
So either way, whether Aang was inexperienced or not, it was agred that La was doing most of everything during the attack.
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Im not sure but I wouldnt see why not. I'll wait and see what others think.
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Though suggestion: Should we also make a page for La?
Unlike Aang, it cannot be an Outlier for La since thats literally the only time La ever fights. And it won't be scaled to anyone in the verse except for its counterpart, the Moon Spirit.
Unlike Aang, it cannot be an Outlier for La since thats literally the only time La ever fights. And it won't be scaled to anyone in the verse except for its counterpart, the Moon Spirit.
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The page for La in the Avatar Wiki states that
So we are not sure how much Aang's Avatar State contributed to the formation/power of Koizilla, but then it says this in the Koizilla section
This could mean that Koizilla was mostly the power of the Ocean Spirit itself, and Aang's Avatar State is just a catalyst for it. As for what this means, the wave feat is mostly done by the Ocean Spirit here.
| Aang entered the Avatar State and walked into the Spirit Oasis, and fused with the Ocean Spirit to form Koizilla. |
| Made entirely of water and light, this destructive creature is literally the wrath of the ocean in physical form. |
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Kk understand.
Tho how strong would La be by himself? Since it says "literally the wrath of the ocean in physical form", could it be somewhere between 6-B and 6-A? Or would that just be hyperbole? If the former then it could work since it won't scale to anyone except the Moon Spirit (but then we might get another issue). If the latter then nvm.
Tho how strong would La be by himself? Since it says "literally the wrath of the ocean in physical form", could it be somewhere between 6-B and 6-A? Or would that just be hyperbole? If the former then it could work since it won't scale to anyone except the Moon Spirit (but then we might get another issue). If the latter then nvm.
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That's a MASSIVE hyperbole. Multi Continent level in Avatar is ridiculous
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For one, 6-A is not Multi-Continent Level its just continent level. Multi-Continent High 6-A.
Two, its not scaling to any character in series besides the Moon Spirit so I don't see whats too much about it. And arent Raava and Vaatu given similar ratings?
Two, its not scaling to any character in series besides the Moon Spirit so I don't see whats too much about it. And arent Raava and Vaatu given similar ratings?
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If you do decide to make a profile for La, I would just set her AP by her highest showings (AKA: The Wave calc that I did, yielding in Island level AP)
It is a bit of a stretch to assume said Ocean Spirit can perform feats between 6-B and 6-A because it is considered the Ocean's wrath here (Did the Ocean Spirit threaten the world in any way similar to what Vaatu did)
Vaatu's Continent level AP comes from the fact that he was going to cover the world in darkness and then reshape it, although we are talking about the entire world here, Multi-Continent level AP would fit this description much better.
It is a bit of a stretch to assume said Ocean Spirit can perform feats between 6-B and 6-A because it is considered the Ocean's wrath here (Did the Ocean Spirit threaten the world in any way similar to what Vaatu did)
Vaatu's Continent level AP comes from the fact that he was going to cover the world in darkness and then reshape it, although we are talking about the entire world here, Multi-Continent level AP would fit this description much better.
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True, though I have a question.
Not saying we should downgrade Vaatu but when was it stated he was going to reshape the world? I remember him just wanting to cover it in darkness and nothing more. And what was the timeframe of it again?
Not saying we should downgrade Vaatu but when was it stated he was going to reshape the world? I remember him just wanting to cover it in darkness and nothing more. And what was the timeframe of it again?
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I am unsure if Vaatu actually covered the world in Darkness once before, or just threatened to do so. If he did not actually cover the world in Darkness, this would only warrant a "possibly" rating for Vaatu's Darkness feat.
On topic: Stick with the feats that the Ocean Spirit has actually displayed, and base its tiering/Attack Potency from there, instead of basing its tiering on speculations. No evidence that the Ocean Spirit itself is capable of performing a feat that is higher than the one shown within the series.
On topic: Stick with the feats that the Ocean Spirit has actually displayed, and base its tiering/Attack Potency from there, instead of basing its tiering on speculations. No evidence that the Ocean Spirit itself is capable of performing a feat that is higher than the one shown within the series.
