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The ultimate battle of Gods=ZeedMillenniummon vs Arceus

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Wonder how that was not made before.

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GAIA Origin ZeedMillenniummon VS Incomplete Arceus

Battle takes place in Andromeda Galaxy
 
Zeed mid diff

Acausality nopes Arceus's causality manipulation.

Mid-Godly regen means that Arceus can't straight up erase him.

Zeed has resistance to nearly all of Arceus's hax.

Resistance to reality warping/conceptual manipulation means Arceus can't stop Zeed's regen.

Zeed absorbs any attack Arceus uses and grows stronger

Eventually Zeed grows strong enough and absorbs Arceus and his soul.
 
@Mugen

Well, you know what I'm voting for.

Arceus still has absolutely no way of putting down Zeed for good, who has taken virtually everything he can dish out and then some.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
It was actually made...Cal will cry with glee...
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Are you sure? With the way this is going, he'll actually cry out in rage with spittle flying out from different directions.
 
Inconclusive.

Arceus can ignore any resistance thanks to its Omnipotent ability, it also has Precognition, Statistics Amplification, Attack Reflection and exists before the concept of soul existed but still I do not see how it can surpass its Regenerationn, and its absorption will also be a problem.
 
@Zexgen

How do you reflect something that simply devours souls, time, space, and reality with its very presence? In addition, taking additional attacks just makes Zeed stronger and hastens Arceus's defeat.
 
@Reppuzan

Arceus is creator and exists before all these concepts, besides many of those things would be annulled by the plates and as I mentioned before Omnipotent would ignore any resistance so the hax of Arceus if would be effective, and Statistics Amplification also will make Arceus more stronger.
 
What resistances has Omnipotent ignored. We can't assume he undoes every resistance. Only main resistance in Conquest is Ghosts and elemental stuff. Nothing more...
 
@Zexgen

Cute. Zeed did the exact same, is acausal, and revives himself when his Regenerationn is somehow unable to prevent himself from being killed.

Arceus' resistance negation would extend to mind and spatial attacks at best. Given that Zeed is a seething mass of chaos who has Black Spores on himself at all times, that wouldn't be a very wise decision either.
 
Arceus's omnipotent abilities only gives its attacks the ability to ignore the resistances of pokemon, like ignoring resistance to ghost, fire, normal, poison, water, electric, etc attacks. It won't give him the ability to ignore Zeed's resistance to reality warping/soul manipulation/space time manipulation/concept manipuation/etc. Additionally, Zeed isn't resisting Arceus's attacks, he's absorbing their power and growing stronger.

While we are on the topic of statistics increasing, Zeed constantly increases his stats just by breaking down and absorbing the fabric of space-time around him. He'll be getting stronger the throughout the whole battle. Also, just a grammar tip, you don't need to say "more stronger". You just say "stronger"

Plates only defend Arceus against attacks that fall under pokemon classifications. Zeed is beyond that.
 
I frankly never understood the idea of "Resistance Negation" as a power. It's not really ignoring a resistance as much as it is overwhelming it. Like, Character A shrugs off a mind attack from Character B, but is decimated by Character C's mind attack. What seems more likely, that C has higher mind powers than B, or C ignored A's resistance to mind hax?

Regardless, Zeed should win for reasons above.
 
Resistance negation tends to only be a thing in RPGs and JRPGs where there are things like "resistance to poison" that a character can negate with an ability. I believe there are also cases in other fictional works (there was this series I read a while back where a character could ignore resistance to mind manipulation/reading by doing something along the lines of making his mind control "not there" and just slip past the defenses), but overwhelming resistances is a lot more common than just ignoring them.
 
Zhex10 said:
Zeed - 6

Arceus - 0

Inconclusive - 1

Only 1 more for Zeed's win
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Arceus already lost vs this guy iirc so... yeah, its not like arceus got any major hax to make a difference.
 
Whoa whoa whoa. First off, this is nice guy Zeed, so even if he figured out the secret of arceus' Regenerationn, he wouldn't go through with it. Not to mention the amount of NLF of taking any attack to go stronger and Zeed's main hax is his resistance while his offensive hax is negated just as easily as the opposite and it becomes inconclusive, especially given that according to DarkLK, stuff like absorption is s*** tier hax in tier 2.
 
Absorption is s*** tier hax? Explain how being able to absorb your opponent, taking their strength and powers for your own and largely negating regen and immortality through the virtue of not having actually killed them but simply taken forced them into a new state of being as part of you is s*** tier
 
Ok fair enough. I still think absorption is pretty powerful though once you get past those weaknesses.

Speaking of which...

1. Arceus can't actually do anything permanent to Zeed thanks to Zeeds resistances and MId-Godly regen. So the battle will just keep going, and since speed is equalised, eventually Zeed with catch Arceus and begin absorbing him.

2. Arceus could proably overpower the absorption the first few times it happens. But after Zeed absorbs a bunch of Arceus's attacks/the fabric of space-time, he'll be strong enough that Arceus won't be able to resist being absorbed.

3. Absorbtion not being instant won't matter once arceus is actually caught. Speed is equalised so he can't get away faster than Zeed can keep up.
 
Cross universal teleportation and infinite stamina makes it incredibly easy to get away. And Arceus being well...omniscient, will know that his attacks are only making his opponent stronger.
 
The real cal howard said:
Because 1, it can be dodged, two, it can be overpowered, and three, it's not instant.
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Except it is. And this "S***tier hax argument holds no water. Seeing as a Royal Knight was instantly absorbed by it. Zeed's absorption is far greater than you are giving it credit for.

1) Yes it can. So can Arceus' attacks

2) Yes it can. Has yet to happen seeing as even Dynasmon could not overcome it.

3) He absorbed Dynasmon pretty much instantly.

Of course we also have the fact that he breaks down souls as well. And he will eventually get above Arceus. Along with the fact that Arceus will never kill him. Arceus technically can't win unless Arceus can seal him....Can Arceus seal Zeed? That may be an option.
 
I agree with cal and zexgen, this should be inconclusive.

Both have good defensive hax. Zeed has mid-godly regen and Arceus low-godly with the entire multiverse working as his disembodied consciousness.

Overall, Zeed has better resistance, while Arceus has better offense, more variety and precog.
 
Considering Arceus sealed Giratina... also, spooky plate.

Zamasu was instantly obliterated by Zeno. Doesn't keep him from being the bottom of 2-C
 
Excuse me but how does Arceus have better offense considering Arceus' 2-C rating is from defeating other Low 2-C's while Zeed's is from not even considering the actions of another 2-C as well as many other Low 2-C's as a problem.
 
Also, I love how everyone is sucking on Zeed's inability to die but fails to acknowledge that Zeed couldn't and wouldn't put down Arceus permanently.
 
The real cal howard said:
Considering Arceus sealed Giratina... also, spooky plate.
Zamasu was instantly obliterated by Zeno. Doesn't keep him from being the bottom of 2-C
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What does Zeno have to do with this fight? He destroyed some guy connected to the universe. And Low 2-C could do that. So your point? Zeed's absorption is being heavily downplayed here when it has been clear in all his fights that it is far stronger than any other simple absorption. And Arceus doesn't even have any of the same resistances as Dynasmon either way. The fact that this absorption is still threatening at Zeed's High 2-A level shoul show you that this absorption is nothing like what you are used to.
 
@The real cal howard

You know, other than devouring every timeline and soul in range until there's nothing left but Arceus to absorb, right?
 
Didn't it take God, a 2-A being to seal Zeed? I don't think 2-C Arceus is up to that.

Zeed literally eats space-time around him. He could just keep eating the multiverse until Arceus has no way to come back. Or just absorb Arceus and make him part of Zeed, noping regen. Dimensional traversal is also something Zeed can do by simply chasing Arceus through the multiverse, eating every universe he passes through along the way.

Omniscience is only valid in the beings own franchise. Arceus has no way of knowing Zeed's abilities, so he won't know his attacks are only making him stronger.
 
The real cal howard said:
Also, I love how everyone is sucking on Zeed's inability to die but fails to acknowledge that Zeed couldn't and wouldn't put down Arceus permanently.
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You realize that Zeed is not in the Digital World right? The Digital World like literally has no Andromeda Galaxy I believe. I mean even good-guy Zeed will take drastic measures. He wants to protect the Digital World. He could careless about everywhere else.
 
Monarch Laciel said:
Didn't it take God, a 2-A being to seal Zeed? I don't think 2-C Arceus is up to that.
Omniscience is only valid in the beings own franchise. Arceus has no way of knowing Zeed's abilities, so he won't know his attacks are only making him stronger.
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Was that 2-A Zeed being sealed? Don't forget this is 2-C Zeed. If 2-A Zeed can be sealed by a 2-A being, than 2-C Zeed should be able to be sealed by a 2-C opponent.

Arceus has concept manipulation of knowledge. He can adjust the concept to give him omniscience wherever he is.

Also keep in mind, resistance =/= immunity. Thats how it seemed to me everyone treated Zeeds resistances as.
 
Reppuzan said:
@The real cal howard

You know, other than devouring every timeline and soul in range until there's nothing left but Arceus to absorb, right?
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This. Is. A. Protagonist. Also, you're making a lot of assumptions that Arceus will just sit there and not just move to somewhere else with his Creation powers. And traveling in a void. That's sure new for Arceus...

@Dragon. Source that he cares not for life on other worlds? Also, lol at the comment on Digimon and downplay when the opponent of the digimon normally gets downplayed.
 
This. Is. A. Versus Battle. Willingness to kill is part of standard battle assumptions. Even if Arceus doesn't just sit there, eventually there won't be anything left once Zeed its everything. And if Arceus keeps creating, Zeed keeps absorbing. Generally, continuosuly making your opponent stronger isn't the best strategy.
 
"This. Is. A. Protagonist. Also, you're making a lot of assumptions that Arceus will just sit there and not just move to somewhere else with his Creation powers. And traveling in a void. That's sure new for Arceus"

Zeed is more neutral than anything. He just a nicer Zeed....With low self-esteem....Don't think too much about it....

"@Dragon. Source that he cares not for life on other worlds? Also, lol at the comment on Digimon and downplay when the opponent of the digimon normally gets downplayed."

Maybe it's the fact that he never ONCE mentioned the human world at all. And the fact that the only world of any concern is the Digital World in Digimon Dawn and Dusk. So we can't assume he cares for something he has never shown to care about. Also name one time where we have downplayed a character for a Digimon? Please do.
 
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