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Natsu vs. Sanji

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I would go with Natsu becaue of bonus fire damage considering everything else seems to be equal at least from their stats on the forum.
 
Sanji since the only thing Natsu has going for him is the ability to eat Sanji's fire, which Sanji could and probably would stop using as soon as Natsu shows that ability.
 
Current Natsu would be Island level off of Erza, Sanji scales to Zoro who hasn't shown anything passed Mountain as well as Sanji can't really hurt him since his most powerful moves are diable jiambe attacks this is too onesided
 
Lucifonityoplpopop said:
we are discussing power levels of fictional characters here which literally means nothing,so there's no reason to get offended
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Please don't use that lazy excuse to get out of trouble. If you aren't gonna make a tread about this. Don't call it unfair as logically someone who is used to this site will disagree with you. If you feel it is unfair. Make a thread about or don't say anything. Keep it to yourself. How is this fair

1) Both combatants are able to fight without having to worry about getting blitzed.

2) If someone has a speed advantage then that in itself is an unfair and biased fight.

3) Unless this is someone like Flash whose speed is the main source of their hax, then it is run by a case-by-case basis.

4) We would literally have like no matches due to speedstomps. Which are by law here unfair.

So tell me what is truly unfair?
 
currently their equal in stats so it comes down to their battle skills and how long they can last in a battle. Sanji has the slight advantage in battle skills since he does have a style that he mastered while Natsu is kinda random in his style. I think in a long battle Natsu would last the longest simply because can easily regain Stamina after eating fire and Sanji would easily give him that chance, not only that but Sanji is heavily relient on his legs to fight so if they get injured to the point where he can't move them properlly then he's at a huge dissavantage.

on simply who can last the longest in the fight, I think Natsu has this with high-difficulty.
 
Your forgetting the difference between the 2 verses; in OP people can fight for days non stop. In FT however, no single battle has lasted for more than one day. Additionally Natsu has strongly implied/stated that using FDKM drains his stamina faster.
 
Actually in filler episode gray and Natsu fight 3 days in a row plus It doesn't matter those battles are when people are super equal on the other side all the other battles that have ever been shown end in one or two episodes like in shounen in general.
 
True but as I said those are two particular cases when it comes for Luffy vs cracker and two admirals since they were completely equal or else all other battles would continue for days and not minutes.
 
As far as I see on files their stamina is pretty equal. Stamina can't save you from being knocked out. Natsu has the AP advantage here btw. So his attacks will do more damage theb Sanji's.
 
Even if Natsu can keep up with Sanji in terms of stamina and has an AP advantage Sanji out classes Natsu as a martial artist (Jacob Lessio proved that Natsu suffers aginst opponent of greater skill even if he has the AP advantage) and can keep fighting with greater injuries.
 
Dude, stop it.


One thing is if Natsu is going to get upgraded, but that didn't happends yet. So stop this, because is not the first time
 
Delta3000 said:
Your forgetting the difference between the 2 verses; in OP people can fight for days non stop.
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the only battle that has been confermined to lasted for more then a day was the battle between Aokiji and Akainu and I doubt Sanji is anywhere near their level.

even if Sanji has better fighting skills then Natsu, he's still heavily reliant on his legs to fight so if they get injured to a point where he can't move them properly then it does give Natsu an advantage since I'm sure at some point Sanji will get his legs hurt. if he had veriety in his fighting style and not just his kicks then I do believe he will win but since he doesn't I do believe Natsu win with high-difficulty.
 
Actually, Jinbe and Ace fought for three days. And more recently, Luffy fought one of the commander's of a Yonko over the course of an entire night. Sanji is likely at least capable of fighting as long as Luffy. That's kind of a moot point though, given that superior endurance doesn't really matter if you get knocked out by someone with superior AP. So while FDKM might use up Natsu's majic rather quickly, it would also enable him to one-shot Sanji with current stats.

Edit: My apologies, just checked the profiles again and missed the part where Sanji was upgraded. Looks like endurance might be more of a factor than I just assumed.

To another point however, you can't just assume Sanji is more skilled than Natsu because Nasu's style is "random". Luffy's style is equally, if not even more random than Natsu, and Luffy>Sanji in terms of battle skill. Battle skill comes down to relevant experience, and both Natsu and Sanji have been fighting since they were children.
 
Why do we even discuss this lol they can fight in their respective universe as much as they wish it won't change anything in these match ups since those ten day battles are nothing more than random things added to make it more interesting like a random hype stuff like really by those standards luffy and doffy should of fight for days.

And Natsu was said to be a genius in battle several times like really he even figure out his enemies breathing rythm and their foot position so saying it's random fight style is ridiculous you could say random when it's some random friendly battles but not serious deal.
 
I complety forgot about Jinbe and Ace's fight my bad. the battle againts Craker is a bit iffy personaly since Luffy was eating Crakers Soldiers throughout the fight as far as I can tell.

Like I said, its not the skills that'll decided it how it will end but how long they can last and while normally their equal Sanji does have a small weakness in that if his Leg's are injured too much he can't fight properly giving Natsu the edge.
 
What I believe thatoneguy was referring to is the fact that both Natsu and Luffy don't seem to have a concrete combat style not so much that they flail around
 
That's exactly what I meant, thank you. Luffy's style is entirely self taught from surviving on his home island, but he knows exactly what he's doing when he's fighting. Natsu's style is a combination of what he learned from Igneel and what he's picked up by brawling in the guild/against monsters over the years. They'll both do crazy things, but its all a part of their strategy. And like you said, Natsu has shown that he's capable of reading his opponents and adjusting on the fly, with that one fight against Sting and Rogue being a good example, along with how he handled Yuka and many other examples. I'm not ripping on either character, they are both combat geniuses, if somewhat unorthodox in the way they approach a fight.

(Luffy is slightly crazier at times though haha...doing things like punching through spikes, and attempting to tear his own hands off to escape a prison o_O how does he still have hands at this point?)

Sanji has shown that he is also a very clever and skilled combatant, but I've seen no evidence to suggest that he is more skilled/more adaptable than Natsu. From what I see, it actually looks like its the other way around if anything.
 
@Thatoneguy360

From what i've seen Natsu has only adapted to people with the same combat style as him (self taught brawler) like Sting and Rogue. When he has fought people with disiplined style, like Jacob, they have had him outmatched and he has been unable to adapt.
 
Jacob is a professional assassin when it comes to martial arts he is not a good compare plus he was out matching Natsu only for a bit cause of his magic didn't allow Natsu to see him so it has nothing to do with fighting style not to mention Jacob later was wrecked
 
Why not? Sanji's style revloves around kicks and Jacob's revolves around throws and holds; ergo they both use a displined/defined fighting style.

I wasn't refering to when he was using his magic but when he wasn't; when jacob wasn't using his magic he was throwing Natsu and pinning him with ease, in fact if they hadn't used magic (Natsu's damage dealing magic and Mackarov giving him an opening whas the only reason Natsu won) in the battle and mearly used their martil skill Jacob would have won with little difficulty.
 
Well Sanji isn't skilled I mean there is also the fact Natsu can use hands as well there plus I repeat someone who spends his time killing people and is older than Sanji so, has more experience is kinda tough to use as example thou it's still kinda hard to tell like generally I don't Natsu could overpower Sanji in fighting style but he could do damage as well and having that let say burning effect is kinda a bonus for him and we'll both hands and legs is also possible help not to mention Natsu was shown to beat a professional executionist who also used weapons without magic so yeah I am pretty sure he at least match Sanji.
 
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