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Because apparently this is a thing. Speed is Equalized and both are 2-B.
Shulk:
Rimuru: 1 (Oblivion)
Inconclusive:
Shulk:
Rimuru: 1 (Oblivion)
Inconclusive:
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Shulk VS. Rimuru Tempest
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Shulk cant kill him for good, while Rimuru has a bunch of passives
Plus, he outlives and outstaminas if necessary
Plus, he outlives and outstaminas if necessary
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What can shulk do to passive fear, mind, madness, soul, sleep, social influencing, stats reduction, death, fate, power null, RE, analytical prediction, radiation, etc?
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I'll wait to comment
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Continuing on from the other thread, Alvis can easily deal with the Type 8 from Veldora, but I don't know if the Spirit of Darkness has Abstract Existence Type 1, but nothing Incaping Rimuru can't handle as it only resurrects upon death.
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So what's the arguments for both sides?
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Shulk passively dies due to the passivesEverything12 said:
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He resists fear, mind, death, powernull, and stat reduction. Acausality type 2 covers fate manipulation and he's immune to soulhax.Milly Rocking Bandit said:
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Oof... I should've kept my mouth shut...
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I mean, Rimuru blitzes with time warp
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On what scale? Rimuru can bypass soul manipulation resistance. On what scale? On what scale? On what scale? On what scale? On what scale? Madness iirc is type 2? And you forgot his passive social influencing.Bware1 said:
I also forgot to add his passive luck on himself, and passive durability negation.
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He's immune to soul manipulation.
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His Time warp requires to be activated, plus Omnipresent through Time > Immeasurable
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Omnipresent isnt speed, its a state of beingEverything12 said:
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As I said, he can bypass it.Thatsafloridathing said:
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It's also listed in Speed Ratings as he still affects how fast you can activate your powers.
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OtherEverything12 said:
Omnipresent (This is technically a state of being, rather than a speed, but has consequences for combat similar to that of a speed statistic. For practical comparisons, each case requires more detailed con
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I said immune, not that he resists it.
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Thats kinda NLFThatsafloridathing said:
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Fiction, I suppose. Milly, btw.Bware1 said:
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Ah, nvm then.Thatsafloridathing said:
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No, you can have immunity to soul manipulation through not having a soul.
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The point is as Omnipresent Alvis can still react to Rimuru's Time Travel as he is already at that point of Time before Rimuru travels there.
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It happens often in fiction. Tenma Yato can timestop in a realm where time doesnt existBware1 said:
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Yeah sure, but has Rimuru used soulhax on characters without souls?
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The rest of my answers on Shulk's resistances weren't answered, though. Because that needs to be dealt with before Rimuru actually begins to fight.Everything12 said:
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Iirc, no.Thatsafloridathing said:
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We just went over he doesn't.
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laughs in terumiBware1 said:
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"It happens often in fiction. Tenma Yato can timestop in a realm where time doesnt exist."
I've been told that this actually isn't true.
And it's not actually stated that he time stopped in that place where time doesn't exist, time stop is just an affect of his actual ability which is to just freeze stuff/make things stagnant.
I've been told that this actually isn't true.
And it's not actually stated that he time stopped in that place where time doesn't exist, time stop is just an affect of his actual ability which is to just freeze stuff/make things stagnant.
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I mean, you get the point...Yogiri can kill things that even lacks a concept of death, and so on
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Yes
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Alvis(Shulk's weapon) also has passive precog, probability manipulation that allows him to nullify one action of the enemy, fate hax, space-time manipulation, EE and life-force absorption. Then depending on what he sees in the future, Shulk/Alvis could also lead with thought-based EE that negs mid-godly.
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Rimuru resists all those
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