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Sonic vs Giorno Giovanna

This will probably just be Incon.

I don't think Sonic can really bypass Return to Zero and Giorno can't induce the death loop unless he kills Sonic first IIRC which he doesn't have really anything to do it with.
 
Yh thats not a thing anymore,ger does have willpower manip that we know but the mechanics of it we dont. His willpower manip could be done through causality manip or empathic manip and we dont know which
 
Zel97 said:
Yh thats not a thing anymore,ger does have willpower manip that we know but the mechanics of it we dont. His willpower manip could be done through causality manip or empathic manip and we dont know which
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does Sonic resist either?
 
ZephyrosOmega said:
Zel97 said:
Yh thats not a thing anymore,ger does have willpower manip that we know but the mechanics of it we dont. His willpower manip could be done through causality manip or empathic manip and we dont know which
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does Sonic resist either?
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We dont use it on matches, thats the point
 
We know that he has it, and sonic can't put him down, so the willpower manip will eventually happen, whether we know how it works or not.

Probably a stomp for Gio since sonic can't put him down.
 
I was there when the note for willpower got added, we can't assume Giorno will use willpower and even if he did we can absolutely not guarantee it works for 24 hours.

That said Giorno does have life-force draining/adding (which makes people's body too fast for their minds or something) which is OoC but if this fight takes long enough he might pull it out.
 
It isn't even that out if character, we do see him use it against Bruno, though it is when he first realizes that he can use it.
 
I don't think he could use it to actualy kill or knock Sonic out because of the AP gap, all he did in the Bruno fight was use it to make Bruno unable to dodge and feel more pain, which the AP gap makes both useless

Only attack reflection could actualy beat Sonic
 
Oh wait, I forgot about attack reflection.

Since sonic can't put him down it will get him eventually.

Probably a stomp now.
 
I'm pretty sure that'd be an NLF to assume it'd be able to reflect up to the amount of damage Sonic can inflict, but Sonic isn't going to realistically attack the animals regardless even if it did work like that and he feels the pain coming back at him. I'm not sure if the causality protects the animals too (Sonic could subdue them with hax otherwise), but they can't even harm him either. It'd just be incon.
 
It says Sonic can go super in the OP, assuming Giorno will let Sonic peform actions so attack reflection can actualy procced, then Sonic would probaly transform, and Super Sonic has stonewall dura so attack reflection won't work
 
What does that mean? Also if he lets Sonic transform, Super Sonic is up to immesurable in speed since he didn't specified if it's 4-A or 2-C Super Sonic
 
Giorno's whole thing is return to zero, wich erases any action take. IE, Sonic moves, punches out giorno, GER resets, sonic is back at the start and Giorno isn't affected by the punch because it never happened. Also GER can move in a timeless void, but not giorno.
 
Gilad Hyperstar said:
What does that mean? Also if he lets Sonic transform, Super Sonic is up to immesurable in speed since he didn't specified if it's 4-A or 2-C Super Sonic
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This is 2-C Super Sonic I believe.
 
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