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Goku (Toei) vs infinite

Goku scales to about 13.6 Yottatons, while Infinite effortlessly defeated Pre-Forces 5-A base Sonic, who scales to 3.736 Ninatons.

Infinite is more than 270 times stronger than Goku here so it seems to be a massive stomp for him
 
I think there might've been a misunderstanding, there is no Saiyan saga key for Goku (Toei) so I'll assume the OP ment Vegeta saga/TWS Goku which means he scales to King Vegeta's casual multi-planet busting feat which (mid-end) is 13 ninatons, which gives Goku roughly a x3.5 AP advantage over Infinite (more if you factor in the Kaioken).
 
Oh, well then, I vote Infinite because of his cloning and illusions and virtual reality, also BFR to Null Space and etc
 
goku usually gets serious when they are multiple enemies on his level, he might be prompted to use kaioken.
 
Goku won't know who is the real Infinite and Infinite can easily confuse him and his surroundings, plus Kaioken last for too little and puts too much strain on his body
 
It seems they like to fight in groups, wa x3 kaioken goku would have a 6x ap advantage with Kaio ken. Maybe he could beat them before the strain takes a hold of his body?
 
Except Infinite can make literaly infinite of them, unless Goku hits the real one he is not winning, Infinite simply has more advantages in the fight
 
Yeah this seems like another AP vs Hax thread to me, as soon as Infinite realizes him and his duplicates are getting overpowered he'll likely just BFR Goku on the spot however this version of Goku does have experience dealing with BFR (Garlic Jr's dead zone) so could theoretically use Kaioken to one-shot via sheer AP or solar flare to temporarily blind Infinite when he realizes what Infinite's doing, it depends from I've seen Infinite's BFR seems similar to Garlic Jrs, is there any other applications to it? (e.g could he teleport Goku to the null void with a thought).
 
If you mean High 5-A Goku, then he has a decent AP advantage over Infinite, but Infinite has far better hax, such as BFR and Duplication.

Voting Infinite too
 
I kinda forgot about Infinite's genj... I mean illusions/perceptions manipulation, so he could just BFR Goku into the Null void without Goku knowing it (unless for some reason Infinite can't use both abilities at the same time, which seems unlikely), so I think Infinite takes this however I don't believe this is a stomp since Goku can stat amp to one-shot/blitz Infinite with Kk (the problem is hitting the right one), so a decisive win for Infinite (unless I'm missing something).
 
Arent the clones just 5-B+, sonic easily destroys them in gameplay until he gets to the real infinite, goku could do exactly the same thing but just with different moves.
 
Okay, I am thinking you made this match so Goku would win, which isn't valid btw, a OP shouldn't be biased, second Infinite won that fight against Sonic, third in the boss fights and cutscenes they can fight Sonic in equal terms, second Infinite's perception manipulation or just creating a virtual reality should be enough to beat Goku, he just has more options
 
I was just bringing up some points for goku, I don't want only him to win. And saying his virtual reality can beat goku isn't enough, goku could easily take out infinite the and all his clones before he loses stamina or infinite gets some really good hits in, goku is still already 3x stronger than him. Infinite was also far stronger than sonic at the time.
 
I am saying so because you are clearly arguing for a character when you are the OP

Listen buddy, you are repeating yourself, Goku can only beat Infinite if he actualy hits him, which is extremely hard because Infinite has clones of not just him but others, can **** up his surroundings with his illusions as he did so making Goku confused on his directions, actualy trap him in a virtual reality like he did with Shadow, BFR him in Null Space etc. All Goku has is AP that can't even one shoot him and Kaioken ***** him up and is limited in time

Infinite beat Sonic twice buddy, idk wtf is your point
 
Also Sonic (and therefore infinite and his clones), aren't 5-B+ anymore by this point, but rather pretty high into 5-A, so the infinite clones will be just as strong as the real one I guess
 
I know I'm the op but I like to add my own thoughts to my threads. Infinite is cocky and likes to toy with his opponents, does he use his direction hax thing a lot? Andthe duplicates clearly aren't as strong as infinite because sonic charges through them, it also isn't as unique as his ability to create clones, the duplicates are just meant to be fodder.
 
Bro, Sonic is the reason where the 5-A AP comes from, and he doesn't beat them easily the ****? Are you basing your arguments only on the Sonic vs Infinite boss fight gameplay and only that? Because like, the cutscenes are against that notion, two statments as well

Infinite cockyness was only hurt him because he didn't kill his opponents when he beat them and could, something SBA already prevents
 
Because goku is way stronger than that sonic. The infinite duplicates, have they managed to actually fight sonic in the cutscenes or does he use them in gameplay. If goku makes the decision to end the fight before infinite uses more of his hax because kaioken also increases his speed.
 
Kaioken increases his speed, since I equalized speed he can be faster than infinite, and can up his ap to one shot.
 
And will he know to use it , they fight for a second, infinite starts messing with goku's perception and then brings his clones out, goku will opt to use Kaio ken to one shot all of them, and infinite.
 
Infinite kills Krillin and a angry Goku becomes SSJ and stomp.

Okay no, leaving the jokes behind, my vote goes to Infinite FRA.
 
Yes, he is not dumb,

No, battle starts, Goku gets confused on reality and what he is doing, gets ganged up, uses Kaioken, destroy the clones but not Infinite himself because he was tricked by illusions, Infinite BFR's him whilw his body is ****** up
 
Why would he destroy the clones but not infinite himself, are you saying he would make himself invosoble, has he ever down that? What are the illusions infinite makes?
 
Friendly reminder that Infinite already heavily upscales from 3.76, maling the gap a good amount less than the near 3.5x AP gap people are claiming.

Infinite via limitless Duplication, Perception Manip, and BFR (which Infinite might not need), which will evebtually cause Goku to get overwhelmed while not even knowing who to target.
 
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