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Gogeta vs Jiren but one of them isn't canon

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Goku couldn't defeat Jiren on his own so he fuses with Vegeta and takes on Jiren

Fight takes place in the Tournament of Power arena but there's no rules against killing or flying or anything of the sort

Both start 50 meters apart

Speed Equalized

Both at 3-A

Gogeta : 7

Ssj4 gogeta render by dokkandeity ddd2h8x-fullview
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Jiren Chou by LeonardoFrost
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Pretty sure Jiren has this in the Bag. He's Stronger than SSB Kaioken x20 by a large amount so I expect him to beat the shit out of him with no effort.
 
Let me try again. Wouldn't Jiren's RE allow him to keep pace and eventually overcome this Goku or just seal him?
 
Actually, I think Jiren has a huge AP adventage. The calc for destroying the DB universe is 40x above baseline 3-A, and Jiren scales above that due to being above the GoDs. Goku, on the other hand, scales to the One-Star Dragon, who downscales from being 10x weaker than his next form who's able to destroy the universe. So Jiren is over 10x stronger than Goku.
 
Why would it be? Jiren > GoDs = 40x 3-A. Gogeta >>>>> Super One Star > 40x 3-A. By adding Jiren's RE to the mix, it sounds pretty even.
 
Gogeta wouldn't one-shot Jiren, he didn't one-shot Super One-Star Dragon who has the same feat as the GoDs Jiren scales above to.
 
That was because he was purposely ******* around with Omega Shenron. If he doesn't **** around with Jiren he One-Shots and if he does then Jiren will gradually climb to his Power Level or try to seal him.
 
No, it wouldn't. He has 5 minutes right? Goku vs. Jiren never took more than a minute, so this should be fine.
 
So, as I said before, Gogeta wins. He was easily destroying Super One Star Dragon, who's around the same level the GoDs Jiren scales above, and given he would be willing to kill via SBA, he would easily overwhelm Jiren, on which case the latter's RE would be really useful, but overall I see Gogeta taking this.
 
Gogeta is vastly above Omega, who's 10 times stronger than Syn, who matched FPSSJ4 Goku, who is baseline

where are you getting 40x 3A for gogeta? As far as I can see, he's unquantifiably above 10x baseline
 
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Gogeta is vastly above Omega, who's 10 times stronger than Syn, who matched FPSSJ4 Goku, who is baseline
where are you getting 40x 3A for gogeta? As far as I can see, he's unquantifiably above 10x baseline
Omega is 40x baseline for destroying the Dragon Ball sized universe. Syn Shenron is 10x weaker so he's 4x baseline. FPSSJ4 Goku scales above this 4x Syn Shenron. Gogeta >>>> Omega at 40x

That being said I think Gogeta would win. If he's in character, he'd toy around with Jiren. Then Jiren would start getting stronger. Gogeta would sense that he's getting stronger and would just end the fight before it gets too out of hand.

Annnnnddddd......speed unequalized, Gogeta blitzes to hell. With speed unequalized, I'd argue that SSJ4 Goku alone could win due to massive gap. Cell Saga Base Toei verse Goku is only like 100x slower than anime *Whis* moving at speed he said he never moved at before. I don't know Chou's exact speed calcs, but I highly doubt they're in the ones to hundreds of quadrillions x FTL, and even if they were, that would be like Cell saga level in the Toei verse
 
Omega is 40x baseline for destroying the Dragon Ball sized universe. Syn Shenron is 10x weaker so he's 4x baseline. FPSSJ4 Goku scales above this 4x Syn Shenron. Gogeta >>>> Omega at 40x

That being said I think Gogeta would win. If he's in character, he'd toy around with Jiren. Then Jiren would start getting stronger. Gogeta would sense that he's getting stronger and would just end the fight before it gets too out of hand.

Annnnnddddd......speed unequalized, Gogeta blitzes to hell. With speed unequalized, I'd argue that SSJ4 Goku alone could win due to massive gap. Cell Saga Base Toei verse Goku is only like 100x slower than anime *Whis* moving at speed he said he never moved at before. I don't know Chou's exact speed calcs, but I highly doubt they're in the ones to hundreds of quadrillions x FTL, and even if they were, that would be like Cell saga level in the Toei verse

I didn't know the DB universe was that freaking big. Damn

Whis performed the speed feat on his page with relative ease, so he's probably faster

Gogeta FRA
 
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