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All For One (MHA) ability takeaway and addition

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ITWhy is:

Fear and Illusion Inducement (His mere presence caused hallucinations of death to Izuku, Todoroki, Kirishima, Iida, and Yaoyorozu)

a thing in his ability-set?

He doesnt have that kind of power, its just that the kids feared him due to how dangerous he appeared, that doesnt mean he now has such a power. If i, as a normal person, walk angrily towards a kid, he will be scared too, doesnt mean i now have a explicit power of Fear Inducement.

Next power:

Regenerationn (High-Mid)

It might be true that he had that ability once upon a time but we dont know if he still has it, he never showed regen as far as i remember.

Damage Absorption,

Im not sure what is meant with this power. His Noumu had shockwave absorbtion, damage absorbtion was never a thing for AFO himself.

Resistance to Blunt Force Injury,

He is incredible durable and stuff but so are people who have no power, in MHA a person can even be thrown through a building and survive (eg. endy vs highend), giving him this power makes it seem like he had a quirk that made blunt force useless despite the fact that he got taken down by a guy who only has blunt force attacks.

This are all the powers i think are wrongly put on to his powerset. Now to powers that require further specifications:

Clairvoyance,- it should be added that this is on his powerset thanks to the quirk Search which grants him the power to know the location, powers and limits of 100 poeople at the same time

Teleportation, - should get noted that he cant teleport himself, its a power to teleport people to himself or iirc to other places that he has some emotional connected with or so, thats why heneeded kurogiris power in order to bring the others away, his power doesnt work like that

The power that needs to be added is:

The power to sense emotions, he said he could do so in ch94 where the guard was bringing him to his cell in the prison.
 
Fear/Illusion inducement: He has this because he could give the students the illusions of death and he should have the same effect as Shiggy. You don't get illusions from fearing someone unless they are insane themselves or the person can inflict illusions.

Regenerationn: He gave this ability to Nomu so yes he did have this he just (I think) list it due to giving it to Nomu so he should have this in between his prime and the USJ.

Damage Absorption: He did this with Gran Torino and in his clash with All Might.

Blunt Force: Same as Regenerationn.

Clairvoyance: This is already said in his skills list

Teleportation: He can still teleport people to his advantage as seen with Gran Torino and this is also listed in his skills part.

Emotion Sensing: I'll reread the chapter.
 
Sora and buff riku said:
You don't get illusions from fearing someone unless they are insane themselves or the person can inflict illusions.
You start thinking of your death and its a bit exaggarated on the "you literally see your corpse" part, that doesnt make it a actual power, other heroes didnt see their death upon meeting AFO, thats why its not a actual ability.

As for Regen/blunt force: but shoudlnt we keep this accurate than? his current self may or may not have it right now, he didnt have it in his prime either, so we would need a key for "prime AFO", "pre-story AFO" and "current AFO".

Damage: i will reread the fight than

clairvoyance/teleportation: oh, ok than
 
You start thinking of your death and its a bit exaggarated on the "you literally see your corpse" part, that doesnt make it a actual power, other heroes didnt see their death upon meeting AFO, thats why its not a actual ability.

As for Regen/blunt force: but shoudlnt we keep this accurate than? his current self may or may not have it right now, he didnt have it in his prime either, so we would need a key for "prime AFO", "pre-story AFO" and "current AFO".

Damage: i will reread the fight than

clairvoyance/teleportation: oh, ok than

There are many verses that have fear inducement from just immobilizing the opponent and AFO was able to do this to a greater extent and if you disagree then you'll probably have to make CRT about what counts as fear inducement others AFO is safe on that.

For Regenerationn and blunt force you just say weather or not he gets to have it that's at least what happened in his thread against All Might if you check his wins.
 
There was already a CRT for that and it was agreed to remove it from every verse that gets fear manipulation due to immobilizing a weaker opponent
 
@Sora

AFO literally only managed to get that power because 4 kids got scared of him, and not a single hero got that afterwards, AFO is scary and dangerous, thats why inexperienced kids couldnt move due to fear, that doesnt make it a power now though.

Ok, fait enough on the other two powers. Though imo we should have a extra way of pointing out this kind of powers, maybe in a category of "didnt show it himself, but is thought of to have this powers due to X/Y/Z reason", and than people can agree on using it or not, Ywach from Bleach would be such a person too, he should have all quincy powers but we never saw him use them, so instead of making it a absolute part of his powerset it would be a variable and people can decide to use it or not.

@Epsilon

Than we should take away AFOs fear/illusion inducement, he doesnt have that power.
 
But what about Stains and Shiggy's case ? One was basically almost dead yet he caused fear upon Gran Torino and Endeavor which both should be stronger than him and Shiggy was able to stun people who were already willing to die for Destro and then they got amped even more driven. I think that these are indeed valid reason for them to have fear inducement and AFO should be above them both.
 
All For One doesn't have Regenerationn or damage absorption

Multiple Nomu have Regenerationn but he himself does not along with him giving two types of Muscle Augmentation but doesn't display it himself

His 'damage absorption' is explicitly referred to as impact recoil he isn't absorbing attacks just reflecting it almost like Meliodas' Full Counter
 
@Sora

Thats not a reason to get that power though, they are things that the user himself is able to do, the fact that endeavor and gran got intomidated by Stains Will doesnt mean they should get that power though, imo that just means that they made their enemy start fearing them, but a actual power would be that they actually create that fear without being intimidating, the chars feel that due to a power. For example: Orstred from Mushouku Tensei, he has that power, people fear him unrelated to his looks.
 
For those powers that he did apparently have at one time but gave to Nomu such as Shock Absorption and Regenerationn, I do think those should be removed from the profile.
 
^Yeah, he should also get that removed, its not a power of his, people just feared him because he was intimidating.
 
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