Mftl neptunia charcters?

Nep Nep and friends had to cross the combined Zerodimension and Heartdimension in order to stop a great threat and they were in a hurry too. Using the standard size of the known observable universe, that being about 93 Billion light years across and combining that into 2 we could get a rough size of about 183 Billion Light Years across, the speed the CPU's are moving at, at a 60 second minimum time window would be about 9 Quadrillion times the speed of light for their HDD forms, but again considering they are in an extreme hurry cus the main Universes were in Grave danger, using a speed like 10 Seconds instead would be reasonable, which would mean that the CPU's would be moving about 586 Quadrillion times the speed of light in their HDD Forms."

Some dude on devianart said this. Valid?

I'm going through a let's play of Megadimension right now, so hopefully I can get something on the Heart Dimension.

This would not work for Zero Dimension since what we see of Zero Dimension from the map is all that's left (possibly a bit more since Uzume orginally though Neptune and Nepgear were from overseas), due to the Dark CPUs erasing most things from existence. so the distance they would have to cross is no where the size of the universe.

So while it is mentioned that the Zero Dimension is basically at the edge of Heart Dimension and the CPUs were held in the center of it, all the characters get to Heart Dimension via Adult Neptune using Croire to warp their. The Warp is much closer to the center, and if we based on the map it would only be around Gamindustri's size (if they have the ability to warp, why would they to a point that would be light years away?).

If they went directly from Zero Dimension to the Center of Heart Dimension instead of using portals, I'd agree they would by MFTL+, but that isn't the case here.

SuperSaiyanKieran said:

So while it is mentioned that the Zero Dimension is basically at the edge of Heart Dimension and the CPUs were held in the center of it, all the characters get to Heart Dimension via Adult Neptune using Croire to warp their. The Warp is much closer to the center, and if we based on the map it would only be around Gamindustri's size (if they have the ability to warp, why would they to a point that would be light years away?).

If they went directly from Zero Dimension to the Center of Heart Dimension instead of using portals, I'd agree they would by MFTL+, but that isn't the case here.

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But the MFTL+ thing comes from them going from one edge of Heartdimension to the other via flight to get to Kurome at the end of the game. Zerodimension isn't really a physically attached part of Heartdimension, it's more of a gateway or a Dimension overlapping it, basically. Kurome states that Zerodimension, quote, "Doesn't actually exist".

No Might 09 said:

But the MFTL+ thing comes from them going from one edge of Heartdimension to the other via flight to get to Kurome at the end of the game. Zerodimension isn't really a physically attached part of Heartdimension, it's more of a gateway or a Dimension overlapping it, basically. Kurome states that Zerodimension, quote, "Doesn't actually exist".

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Could you provide a video from a let's play when they go from one edge to the other (can be more than one if need be). I ask because I honestly don't remember see that and I just finished watching a playthrough for scaling and all i saw I stated in my earlier comment, using Croire's warping to get to the Heart Dimension at an unknown distance from the center but likely relatively close given it was meant to take Kurome and Big Nep there.

Could you provide a video from a let's play when they go from one edge to the other (can be more than one if need be). I ask because I honestly don't remember see that and I just finished watching a playthrough for scaling and all i saw I stated in my earlier comment, using Croire's warping to get to the Heart Dimension at an unknown distance from the center but likely relatively close given it was meant to take Kurome and Big Nep there.

Alright hold up. Im just the messanger guy ill go ask

Could you provide a video from a let's play when they go from one edge to the other (can be more than one if need be). I ask because I honestly don't remember see that and I just finished watching a playthrough for scaling and all i saw I stated in my earlier comment, using Croire's warping to get to the Heart Dimension at an unknown distance from the center but likely relatively close given it was meant to take Kurome and Big Nep there.

Alright hold up. Im just the messanger guy ill go ask

No they used a warp to get inside of Heartdimension, but they crossed across Heartdimension upon arrival.


youtu.be/Pj2y0aOkExY

I know in-game mechanics can make this look... unimpressive or unconvincing, but considering the circumstances they were in and what was on the line (Kurome speeding up the fusion of Zero/Heartdimension and Hyperdimension), it holds water on them traveling that distance in a short amount of time.

No Might 09 said:

No they used a warp to get inside of Heartdimension, but they crossed across Heartdimension upon arrival.


youtu.be/Pj2y0aOkExY

I know in-game mechanics can make this look... unimpressive or unconvincing, but considering the circumstances they were in and what was on the line (Kurome speeding up the fusion of Zero/Heartdimension and Hyperdimension), it holds water on them traveling that distance in a short amount of time.

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1) The Warp. Just to make this clear, the whole point of the initial warp was to get Big Nep and Kurome to their base. It wasn't directly to the base, but was relatively close and Croire would have no reason to mess with Kurome since she was on her side and wanted to see the dimensions fuse. So we just don't know where the warp let them out other than by reasoning it shouldn't have been that large of a distance.

2)28:33, that looks nice and I do agree they'd be in a hurry to stop Kurome, but the problem comes from what I mentioned in (1). The Warp took they relatively close to the Center of Heart Dimension and where Kurome is at is about the same (farther from the Center than the Warp point). So the problem is we don't know the exact distance and the reasoning with the warp would imply it being no where close to light years in distance.

3)To make sure I'm not being misunderstood here, I do agree that both the Zero Dimension and the Heart Dimension are universal in size, it's just that the areas of those Dimensions that the player moves around on/sees on the map is not that of the whole dimension (akin to how in the Hyperdimension the player moves accross Gamindustri and not the entirety of the Hyperdimension).

1) The Warp. Just to make this clear, the whole point of the initial warp was to get Big Nep and Kurome to their base. It wasn't directly to the base, but was relatively close and Croire would have no reason to mess with Kurome since she was on her side and wanted to see the dimensions fuse. So we just don't know where the warp let them out other than by reasoning it shouldn't have been that large of a distance.

2)28:33, that looks nice and I do agree they'd be in a hurry to stop Kurome, but the problem comes from what I mentioned in (1). The Warp took they relatively close to the Center of Heart Dimension and where Kurome is at is about the same (farther from the Center than the Warp point). So the problem is we don't know the exact distance and the reasoning with the warp would imply it being no where close to light years in distance.

3)To make sure I'm not being misunderstood here, I do agree that both the Zero Dimension and the Heart Dimension are universal in size, it's just that the areas of those Dimensions that the player moves around on/sees on the map is not that of the whole dimension (akin to how in the Hyperdimension the player moves accross Gamindustri and not the entirety of the Hyperdimension).


The distance does look pretty close to the center, but same with how small Gamindustri looks in the normal world map, it can still yield something along MFTL+ speeds, with the NEXT Forms adding onto their power and speed, etc. Since Heartdimension really just... doesn't have a landmass to speak off, since they were flying.

SuperSaiyanKieran said:

No Might 09 said:

No they used a warp to get inside of Heartdimension, but they crossed across Heartdimension upon arrival.


youtu.be/Pj2y0aOkExY

I know in-game mechanics can make this look... unimpressive or unconvincing, but considering the circumstances they were in and what was on the line (Kurome speeding up the fusion of Zero/Heartdimension and Hyperdimension), it holds water on them traveling that distance in a short amount of time.

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1) The Warp. Just to make this clear, the whole point of the initial warp was to get Big Nep and Kurome to their base. It wasn't directly to the base, but was relatively close and Croire would have no reason to mess with Kurome since she was on her side and wanted to see the dimensions fuse. So we just don't know where the warp let them out other than by reasoning it shouldn't have been that large of a distance.
2)28:33, that looks nice and I do agree they'd be in a hurry to stop Kurome, but the problem comes from what I mentioned in (1). The Warp took they relatively close to the Center of Heart Dimension and where Kurome is at is about the same (farther from the Center than the Warp point). So the problem is we don't know the exact distance and the reasoning with the warp would imply it being no where close to light years in distance.

3)To make sure I'm not being misunderstood here, I do agree that both the Zero Dimension and the Heart Dimension are universal in size, it's just that the areas of those Dimensions that the player moves around on/sees on the map is not that of the whole dimension (akin to how in the Hyperdimension the player moves accross Gamindustri and not the entirety of the Hyperdimension).

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bumping just in case

1) The Warp. Just to make this clear, the whole point of the initial warp was to get Big Nep and Kurome to their base. It wasn't directly to the base, but was relatively close and Croire would have no reason to mess with Kurome since she was on her side and wanted to see the dimensions fuse. So we just don't know where the warp let them out other than by reasoning it shouldn't have been that large of a distance.

2)28:33, that looks nice and I do agree they'd be in a hurry to stop Kurome, but the problem comes from what I mentioned in (1). The Warp took they relatively close to the Center of Heart Dimension and where Kurome is at is about the same (farther from the Center than the Warp point). So the problem is we don't know the exact distance and the reasoning with the warp would imply it being no where close to light years in distance.

3)To make sure I'm not being misunderstood here, I do agree that both the Zero Dimension and the Heart Dimension are universal in size, it's just that the areas of those Dimensions that the player moves around on/sees on the map is not that of the whole dimension (akin to how in the Hyperdimension the player moves accross Gamindustri and not the entirety of the Hyperdimension).

Since,
certain things or events are required for the story and certain things are ignored.

And again, it's not like you can easily just go to Heartdimension, since Zerodimension is basically a Dimension on top of it like a locked gateway.

I only brought up Zero Dimension being at the edge of Heart Dimension because I wanted all the possibly References to distance to be used so this will be clear. I know they didn't just walk from Zero to Heart.

Croire's warp brought them to an arbitrary point in Heart Dimension. We don't know the distance from certain things other than by reasoning with the point I brought up before that it shouldn't be that large of a distance to the base and than using that, them crossing the map is an unknown distance that is likely not even planet distance.

I would love MFTL+ Neptunia characters, but I just don't see it here. Sorry. I've posted this thread in the Neptunia general thread and discord so hopefully someone else can come and look at this (maybe I missed something or maybe I hit it right on the mark, i don't know).

Also, the second part of the Neptunia revisions will cover speed and abilities so the Heart Dimension will likely be brought up (whenever it is done)