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aside from punching (which can be countered by the space, time, and reality stones.) and ki blasts (which can be countered by the power, space and time stones.) what wincons does goku have?
 
I'm Blue daba dee daba die said:
Shockwave generation, BFR, and light blasts
shock waves can be countered the same way punches are, light blasts might blind thanos but its not a wincon, and goku only goes for bfr when he has no other option, where as thano's first move is to use the reality stone which goku doesnt resist + thanos has the space stone and can just teleport back.
 
i'd say remove all but the power stone (power stone is still unfair but i think its the least hax stone there is.), but im not sure if thanos would still be 5-A then.
 
Base Thanos with the powerstone is one of the weakest 5-A's (WAY weaker than Goku), so I'll just remove the Reality Stone because that is the one which is too haxed for Goku
 
thanos uses the power stone to counter ki, punches, shock waves and potentially light, and he uses the space stone to counter the BFR. (so actually leaving all but the power stone might have been the least fair.)
 
Power Stone only is okay. Both can one-shot each other, but Thanos would go serious before Goku.

So I vote for Thanos.
 
Thanos can create shockwaves with the Power Stone, so combining that with his AP advantage, I think that will benefit Thanos quite well.

Vote's on Thanos.
 
The Calaca said:
Power Stone only is okay. Both can one-shot each other, but Thanos would go serious before Goku.
So I vote for Thanos.
Why would Thanos go serious before Goku? Last I checked, Goku can sense relative power levels- Thanos can't.

And no, Goku "Wanting a good fight" was never a valid reason. Ever. Especially not up against a villain.
 
True.

But Thanos always goes for the incap shot at the very least. Goku doesn't know he's a villain so he has no reasons to go full hitman on this one.
 
The Calaca said:
True.
But Thanos always goes for the incap shot at the very least. Goku doesn't know he's a villain so he has no reasons to go full hitman on this one.
Goku also has no reason to hold back or even try to play with Thanos. There has been flat 0 instances of Goku ever going easy on an opponent of equal, especially with Thanos being capable of outputting 5 Ninatons of TNT.

Along with that, SBA makes Goku willing to kill which he isn't normally. A Willing to Kill Goku is more in line with what we see SS Goku as; namely ruthlessly beating the opponent up no-bars held and only showing mercy near the end, which even then he's still liable to just blast you.

Goku legit does not need to know he's a villain, by default, making Goku willing to kill means he's lost the thing that makes him "nice", that he doesn't kill people unless absolutely neccessary.

This is also assuming Thanos himself isn't liable to go into a speil on how he will wipe away half of all life in the Universe, especially if Goku opens with a "Hi". Thanos as we've seen him in IW is straight up never going to just smack Goku in the face mid-sentence. In fact, small talk is a fairly common thing he does.
 
Fair. With the Reality Stone he might interrupt Goku like he did to Drax and Mantis, but he doesn't have it here.

Change my vote Goku FRA.
 
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