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Happy Halloween! Now to get straight to the point, Maginaryworld was 2-B but was downgraded to Low 2-C for reasons that I found to be heavily flawed. After the downgrade happened, slowly but surely I've been working on a blog that explains why Maginaryworld is 2-B. I would've copied it onto VS Battles Wiki, but reuploading the pictures would have been too time consuming. It's finished now, so here it is with all the explanations.

https://power-levels-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:ShadowWarrior1999/Why_Maginaryworld_is_2-B

The gist of it is, Illumina and her negative aspect Void get back their 2-B tiers. Solaris gets upgraded to 2-B as him ending all of existence would include Maginaryworld which also scales to the super hedgehog trio of Super Sonic, Super Shadow, and Super Silver. The Egg Wizard, which harnesses the Power of the Stars that sustains the existence of parallel universes would also be 2-B and that would add Burning Blaze to the scaling.
 
Something I would also like to mention is how Maginary World functions.

>Maginary World and the Precious Stone make dreams come true.

https://share.icloud.com/photos/0DSw9Qbd4IJVP-5VezwuSlDKQ

These dreams also cross with reality as stated in the Japanese manual.

https://share.icloud.com/photos/0DSw9Qbd4IJVP-5VezwuSlDKQ

Lumina even describes the dream worlds as worlds dreamed coming from the dreame's will or desire to do something like how Firebird is a dream world for Tails to fly and soar free in the sky or how Amy's dream world allows her to become closer to nature.

https://share.icloud.com/photos/08PNhdPGs_wtForS66-bKMNjQ

If these Worlds make their dreams come true wouldn't beings like Eggman Nega and Black Doom have desires and dreams to merge/rule the universe as that was their intended goals?

>Not to mention in the Japanese translations it refers to the dream world having an ocean of stars whcih further imply the size of the dreams.

https://share.icloud.com/photos/07SbiksnyiCbpmB6v96455dQA
 
Bump. Looks over at NiGHTS

(I'm coming for you boi... If this get revised to 2-B I can mostly argue for 2-B)

Anyways based on the current evidence I do agree with 2-B Sonic and Co.
 
Happy Halloween but what has changed since last time. Given I'm not as active as I used to be this is going to go through (like everything else Sonic related nowadays), so just give the general details so I can avoid a large discussion by agreeing and going on my merry way by drinking the night way (even more).
 
Aight nothing's changed but I really don't wanna deal with this so I'm just going to agree and let the upgrade happen. If this were like, two weeks ago I'd totally say no and tell you that you're starting to do with this feat like I was doing for Magolor way back, but given it's now, just do what you want. And I mean that.
 
Think there is some pretty good evidence with the dream worlds being universes lol.

Gonna have to agree.
 
The real cal howard said:
Aight nothing's changed but I really don't wanna deal with this so I'm just going to agree and let the upgrade happen. If this were like, two weeks ago I'd totally say no and tell you that you're starting to do with this feat like I was doing for Magolor way back, but given it's now, just do what you want. And I mean that.
Did you read the blog? There's plenty of proof of the dream worlds being universes there, the downgrade was never something everyone agreed or was final
 
The real cal howard said:
Aight nothing's changed but I really don't wanna deal with this so I'm just going to agree and let the upgrade happen. If this were like, two weeks ago I'd totally say no and tell you that you're starting to do with this feat like I was doing for Magolor way back, but given it's now, just do what you want. And I mean that.
So...is that a disagreement or an agreement? Because you said you don't agree, but you conceded so...
 
This seems quite solid

"Maginaryworld is called a universe/dimension so that means it can't be 2-B."

Where does this come from tho?
 
Greenshifter said:
This seems quite solid
"Maginaryworld is called a universe/dimension so that means it can't be 2-B."

Where does this come from tho?
The Sonic Shuffle manual calls it a dimension and it was called a universe in a promotional maganize.
 
^ I could actually make a case that would actually support the dream worlds being universes but I don't think it's necessary considering the evidence already provided.
 
Yeah I think showing they exist separately and them being at least galaxy sized should be enough to warrant an upgrade considering dimension can mean a whole lot of stuff in fiction (generally Sonic is quite consistent in it meaning universe tho) and even universe can mean a lot of stuff especially when stated in a promotional magazine.

Do they fly between worlds or is it teleportation/portals?
 
I mean, from what I read in the thread it seemed like people were agreeing just to do it, because Cal wasn't arguing. I'll take a gander at it later, though.
 
@Greenshifter They travel between the worlds through portals at the beginning but once they get to the Fourth Dimension Space they fly past a bunch of dream worlds.
 
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